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Following the other thread (550 upvotes and 366 comments at the moment: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417), one of the complaints that people had what that some communities only exist on lemmy.ml and don't have alternatives on other instances.

Let's discuss this and see if we can organize together.

I suggest to have one topic per comment so that is is easier to discuss.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Creating the community isn't the issue, usually it's finding moderators

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if your qualification for moderator includes "Not abusing powers to defend garbage extremist politics" then we currently have two communities that each have zero moderators.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if I got your comment correctly, are you implying that @[email protected] is going to power trip on the newly created [email protected], or do you mean something else?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, just an implication towards the old lemmy.ml version of the community.

What I mean is, moving from a bad situation to an equally bad but improvable situation is still a good move. It might be better to have a small, unmoderated community than one governed by "pretend" moderators.

That said, if the above comment was pointing out a need to fulfill, as opposed to decrying the attempts at community replacement, then you could disregard my snide remark.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry about it for now. I will do it until someone steps up for it. Also, don't forget that I am actually working on tooling to make this job easier, so having any type of growing community would be an excellent way to find out the real pain point for moderators and work on the solutions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When I said moderator, I meant someone to bring people to the community as well 😅

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For that, I really have no answer other than "help with fediverser, stick with one community, and post as much as possible in the promoted communities".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No but I mean practically now, is anyone going to promote that new community to [email protected]? Or do we expect people to hear about it by another mean?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or do we expect people to hear about it by another mean?

Yes. Fediverser will help newcomers. Posting content in the "new communities" will help those already here. Everyone browses by all anyway, so the best way to promote new communities is by putting content there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it visible from other instances in the All feed? I just tried on my SJW alt and the community couldn't be found

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It is now, but what I mean is that if we expect people to see it from All, we need to sub to it from accounts on the biggest instances.

That's what I did for [email protected] a few days ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is now, but what I mean is that if we expect people to see it from All, we need to sub to it from accounts on the biggest instances.

That's what Lemmy Federate (formerly known as Lemmy Community Boost) does.

FYI: I am currently crafting a.post on discoverablity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nice, I've had mixed experiences with that tool in the past, I'll comment on your post

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yes, I am.noy 100% sure if it is still working but if you have anything to promote it's worth a go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it would take one person on the bigger instances to do it. We can promote them in [email protected] and things should get bootstrapped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I can easily create a community for jellyfin on https://selfhosted.forum, but I'd be more inclined to do it on https://poweruser.forum.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

https://libretechni.ca/ is also down on my site, is the site supposed to be up?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh nice! Only one admin though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Single admin instances are fragile instances. One person is a single point of failure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But if the primary admin buggers off with the hosting and/or domain, doesn't that kill all instances?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not if the instance has a backup admin who can take over hosting, domain, etc, which most large instances do. Very small instances usually have a poor bus factor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If he decides to shut down the project, or something happens to him, the server will probably go down with him.

See vlemmy.net, lemmy.film, iusearch.fyi, and so on

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Aha, makes sense. Though my beloved tf went down and that had multiple admins at one point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yep, I guess its having an outage. It's been fine for weeks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Who downvoted this? Why? 😵‍💫

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry to bring it to you, but https://lemmy.film/ has been down for probably six months.

What is the issue with dbzer0? It's literally an instance with the largest piracy community of all of Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When I think of db0 I think of piracy or AI, Jellyfin is a media manager, when I think of it, I think of TV, film and self hosting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well, I'm pretty sure none of the Jellyfin users stream their vacation movies

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

At least one does. But needless to say, there's lots of legally owned content sitting on many NASs all across the world.