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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (13 children)

My God the Chinese are at it again beating the United States at capitalism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (12 children)

It's not on, it really isn't, the Chinese shouldn't be allowed to engage in the free market. They're supposed to be the enemy.

They should be sanctioned so that Western car makers can continue to put out vehicles for ludicrous prices, the way God intends.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know someone is going to read that and not get the implied /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know, I feel like it works on both levels really. There are actual people that think like that and it's insane. The US trade war doesn't really help, It paints China as the bad guy even though they're only doing the same thing as every other country in the world.

By all means demand China improves in areas which makes sense such as blatant copyright violation and human rights abuses but not this. Making cheap cars is hardly nefarious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It depends on how it's done. If the Chinese government is directly subsidizing the cheap cars then it's a problem.

Kind of like the US subsidizing farmers and then dumping the cheap corn on other countries such that their local farmers go out of business.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's capitalism. You don't get to complain because someone else gets a better deal.

China will always be able to produce cheaper products because the cost of living is lower there. But that is hardly a major revelation.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You forgot the uyghurs and slave labour...
Convenient.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes I did, I mentioned human rights abusers, it's right there in the comment that I made, I can still see it.

I find it's always a good idea to actually read the comments before getting angry about them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s capitalism. You don’t get to complain because someone else gets a better deal.

China will always be able to produce cheaper products because the cost of living is lower there. But that is hardly a major revelation.

Where?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

https://feddit.uk/comment/5127995

Like I said, it's a good idea to read the comments.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Thats deleted. No comment there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well the US has 1.2 million prisoners who get paid on average 86 cents a day. So effectively slave labor. That they aren't directly building cars doesn't matter because money is fungible. Every dollar saved not paying prisoners is more money elsewhere in the economy.

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ugh I can't believe I'm wading into a "who's worse" thing on the internet, but here we go! Are the imprisoned Uyghurs all convicted criminals? Not that it makes it ok that the US prisoners are effectively slave labor but they did do something to get there (yeah yeah unfair justice system sure but I want to believe most are there for a legit reason). Maybe the Uyghurs broke the law of "don't be a Uyghur" and the US prisoners all jaywalked. I don't know. Even if we can say one is worse, everybody sucks. Why did I say something here? I feel gross now. I have to go take a shower. Look what you've made me do! It looks like I've defended effective slave labor and somehow endorsed the US' incarceration system!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

The chinese dictatorship is worse

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