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Imagine just foaming at the fucking mouth over people choosing sexual and romantic partners. They're mentally unwell if people you hardly ever see loving each other takes up this much of their thoughts. Choosing who you love, as long as its between two consenting adults, is part of true freedom. If they don't like true freedom they can take their own advice and fucking leave.
My understanding of what is going on is that they're suffering from the same precarity (food, rent, housing, work, family, etc. all in a state of precarity) that the rest of us are, but rather than challenge the own values, rather than challenge traditions or the decades of pro-capitalist, pro-nationalist, anti-communist propaganda they've been spoon fed, it's easier to blame those in the society they already don't like because they're creepy or weird. And the ownership class is fueling its propaganda engine (financing it directly, often) to continue to feed them hate rhetoric, the notion that their fellow citizens (or immigrants) are the enemy within causing them grief, and not the deep abuses of the ownership class.
This mythology runs deep, it's why all our stories point to ramblers, gamblers, adulterers and thieves as sinners and criminals, rather than war profiteers, pharmaceutical companies and tobacco moguls pushing their respective addiction epidemics, or fossil-fuel billionaires pushing an automotive culture while burying data about the climate crisis. Even though all of the former category cause only a tiny fraction of the death, destruction and economic cost that the latter category does.
If we investigated and prosecuted white collar criminals and set all serial killers and bank robbers free, we'd have a lot more people living and a lot more money. And so decades of copaganda have absolutely figured into redirecting that outrage towards the marginalized.
And yes, the ownership class would rather see human extinction than give up their money and power. So I don't know how we're going to navigate through this great filter.
It really has nothing to do with people choosing sexual and romantic partners, and that's not really what Pride is about. That's why there are many LGBT people who don't participate in or support Pride events.
That is the hedonistic principle. Not everyone agrees with that principle, and almost no one agrees with it when taken to its logical conclusion: That all expressions of sexual desire are expressions of love, that all expressions of love are equally valid, and that no expression of love should be repressed.
For example, very few people would agree that scat play -- eating other people's feces as part of sexual play -- is a healthy, normal, or acceptable expression of love. Most people would agree that scat play is sign of sexual deviancy and degeneracy. Yet, the queer movement must necessarily present all forms of sexual deviancy as being equal in value, which is why This Book is Gay -- one of the books that parents are calling to have removed from classrooms and school libraries -- includes a friendly definition of scat play in a list of bizarre sexual fetishes presented to children as normal, healthy expressions of sexuality.
Except your "logical conclusion" missed the most important part of their comment. Here, let me fix it for you:
I agree with this statement, and I think most people would. You're right as well that almost no one would agree with your thought experiment, as it opens up the argument that rape and sexual assault are "expressions of love" when they very much are not. I don't think that was an accident on your part though, considering your account is less than a day old and you decided to come straight to an lgbtq community and participate in the manner in which you have.
Oh no, I guess I'm a hedonist ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"sexual deviancy" aaah okay, you've shown us who you are now.
They're applying general relativity to quantum physics my guy. Once you go down to those small minutia the rules change. You don't need to show children sex, just let them know that as long as you're both consenting adults love is okay. You gotta understand, I'm talking about people not getting attacked in the streets for holding hands and you're mentioning scat play, totally different scopes.