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I disagree. Unfortunately, "not Trump" is the best platform for him, especially right now. Recently, he and Harris did their "are you with us" fundraising and my thought was "no, but I'm against Trump."
I hate genocide and what Israel is doing to Palestine, but Biden is, unfortunately, the best option put on the table. Two shit options in terms of the Middle East, sure, but one is still shittier.
I hate genocide... BUT...
Just so precious.
It's certainly a disheartening state of affairs but the choice is between stopping one genocide now* and foregoing so much as the possibility of stopping any American-supported genocides in the future.
*now, will the extra moral credit of not voting for Biden actually stop Netanyahu's genocide?
Cant reset the entire system right this very moment, so better just push it further down the path like a good little fascist instead of doing something that could start the change that is needed. /s
If you hate genocide so much, why are you Hell-bent on ensuring it by helping "finish the job" Trump get elected?
I am not hell-bent on helping Trump get elected.
I'm hell-bent on not helping a genocidal fascist dictator get elected.
People like you are at fault for Biden being on the ticket and not someone who deserves a vote.
Why are you hell-bent on maintaining the status quo and keeping this genocide and the gradual decline of America into abject fascism going?
Bullshit. You're a concern-trolling Trump supporter in effect, whether you realize it or not. That's factual reality; you don't get to dispute it.
No. I am a person who is against fascism and genocide, so when I am presented with 2 genocidal fascists, I conscientiously abstain.
You don't get to go into your fascism induced delirium and tell me I am doing the opposite of what I am doing.
When Biden loses because the party of peace and the people wont rally behind a profiteering war dog who has militarized police far more than any president in recent history all while commanding "order" in the face of criticism for his actions, it will be YOUR fault that Trump won.
Because instead of shaping the party you vote for, you lap dogged and stuck your ass up in the air.
Won't trump also continue the genocide? So aren't the options Genocide A, or Genocide B? But Genocide A is also a convicted felon.... So. Yeah, easy choice.
Good thing our country is a Democracy and there are a multitude of other options. Not just Fascist Dictator A or Fascist Dictator B.
Only technically. You absolutely have the option of wasting a vote on someone who has basically 0 chance of winning. But most people are going to vote for one of the two options that can win.
And given that it's the left quibbling over who to vote for while the right lines up behind their Führer, you can see why people rag on 3rd party voters. It's the same way we got trump the first time, because people (like me) wouldn't hold their nose and vote against the orange turd.
I don't like a lot of the shit Biden is doing, but I sure as fuck don't want project 2025 or my LGBTQ+ family losing their basic rights.
Is it though? I'd love to know who the other options are in a First Past the Post democracy.
You're right, lets just keep nickle and diming ourselves deeper into fascism.
I'd rather nickel and dime to fascism than go pot committed to fascism. Voting 3rd party is just accelerationism with self justification.
As I've said before, start at the local level and build up a real base of support rather than just moralizing every 4 years.
Shame you have chosen fascism.
Shame you're choosing extra fascism and moralizing to yourself about it.
Nope. Again. I oppose fascism. I know the concept confuses you, but you do that by not voting for fascists.
Keep moralizing to yourself about your accelerationist beliefs. You're only lying to yourself and showing everyone that you have a basic misunderstanding of the electoral process.
But please, tell me again how I'm a fascist while you're advocating behavior that will directly lead to direct and overt fascism. You may not like it, but it is what it is.
If you really opposed fascism, you'd take the path that brought about harm reduction instead of pouring gasoline on the fire (or advocating for the same behavior those you oppose do). But either way, I have no more interest in listening to your accelerationist moralizing. Good day.
Or maybe, start campaigning for you choice about 4 years ago. Get us all on the same page, 4 years ago. Or, crazy idea, go with the guy who won't quite literally end democracy on day one.
One of the two candidates said "I'll be a dictator for a day, just one day". My vote is for the guy who doesn't want to openly be a dictator (and also isn't a convicted felon)
I did.
The fascist in chief cancelled debates.
Sooooo the solution is to let the guy who wants to be a dictator win this time? Is it out of spite, or wanna let me know why
The race is between 2 dictators.
I dont vote for any dictators.
So give up is your solution then... Cool, hopefully you're in a safe place!
Cool, so you're not interested in actual discourse. Have a nice day.
No, I don't need to run mental gymnastics with another fascist.