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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Zionism is an Austrian idea, that the British started to enact after the Ottoman Empire fell in 1917. The United Nations then published their partition plan in 1947 which was followed by the Israel Declaration of Independence in 1948.

Which means yes, technically the founding was done by Holocaust Survivors, but in reality Israels history is not too dissimilar to Colonialism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair, Jews were also massive victims of empire and colonialism. They were kicked around Europe for centuries since the Greeks and the Romans.

Now, on the fall of the Ottoman Empire all kinds of populations coalesced into nation-states (also, all while kicking out people that did not identify with the new nation - massive population exchanges at the time, millions of dead in forced marches out of a region). Most back to the heartlands of their ancestral lands - so the idea wasn't far fetched.

Unfortunately, unlike those other populations Jews were in diaspora so long that they had kept little physical connection with that land which was now occupied mostly by Palestinians.

Fun fact: A plan was hatched to allocate a portion of Australia instead

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Fun fact: A plan was hatched to allocate a portion of Australia instead

"Shalom, cunt!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

We also have to remember that prior to 1917, in order to get their cooperation, The British and French promised various Arab states land and independence after the fall of the Ottomans. Only to THEN turn around and form the Sykes-Picot agreement divvying up the land amongst themselves. This is where the idea of a Zionist state first began to be discussed and various Arab groups were betrayed to make it happen.

I'm not saying terrorists aren't evil. But everything in the middle east is the result of "the west" fucking the people over there over for more than a hundred years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Thanks, that may be what I'm thinking of. Regardless of how Israel started, what they're doing now is Genocide.