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The Maldives faces existential threat from a climate crisis it did little to create. We need the world’s help now (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

i bet they'd also help others and let them live on their land. lets take a look:

Islam is the official religion of the Maldives and open practice of any other religion is forbidden.[134] The 2008 constitution says that the republic "is based on the principles of Islam" and that "no law contrary to any principle of Islam can be applied". Non-Muslims are prohibited from becoming citizens.[135]

mmmmhkay

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How is this relevant? Does this affect the massive ecological problem there? Are you implying that the displacement of the 500k inhabitants is justified because of this? If not, why did you bring it up? Seems cynical and unproductive to me.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago

yawn. so seems their law. just saying.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While these policies aren't nice and your assumptions might be right, it's still a valid point that it's unfair for people to suffer the consequences of other people's actions.

In an ideal world everybody and everything would need to face the consequences of their own action. We don't live in that world. So it's not wrong to point out unfairness and fight for better solutions. Not being perfectly right yourself doesn't take away the right to point out wrongness in others.

Now away from the ideal world into reality. In the (hopefully) long term the Maledives are doomed. And they aren't alone. We screwed up the climate so much and we are still screwing up and haven't even peaked our emmissions yet.

We need to accept the fact that life will get hard. We need to finally accept the fact that if we don't overcome our differences, the human suffering will be absolutely brutal.

Unfortunately I am very pessimistic in this regard. Already and maybe since always human suffering gets ignored if it's not your tribe. It seems like humans can't overcome their tribe thinking. It seems like humans don't improve on their hate and brutality against each others. And it seems that many humans aren't able to feel sorry for human suffering if it's far, far away.

The future looks bleak and we made it and still make it look that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Well shit that's incredibly edifying too. Ugh.