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Israel carried out at least eight strikes on humanitarian convoys and their facilities in Gaza since the war began, according to a report by Human Rights Watch.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/4Twue

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you are very likely from a western society. And what I've noticed since this conflict has broken openly, is there is a serious disconnect between those of us who are rooted in the middle East and those who are not.

When you live next to someone who has spent over 1,000 years trying to exterminate you and you now have a safe harbor that you can defend yourself from, then you meet fire with fire. Israel is quite clearly taking more steps than any Nation has ever taken in an urban combat situation to avoid civilian casualties. They're not Lily white in this. Nobody fighting a war could possibly be, but to try and claim that they're even close to being on the level of the people who tore babies out of their cribs and slaughtered them completely misrepresents the reality on the ground.

The white Western Savior along the lines of what Martin Luther King identified 50 years ago doesn't have a fucking clue what they're looking at or talking about when it comes to the theater of war that we are witnessing in the middle East. You can't humanely fight against the monsters that comprise hamas. As sad as that is for humans to have to accept in order to save their own lives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, the West are way more understanding of this genocide than most non-Western countries.

The two biggest legal challenges have come from South Africa and Nicaragua.

The African Union as a whole is pretty opposed to it and thus the African continent could be a source of peacekeepers if the US ever stops blocking the UN.

Meanwhile the US role has been such that there's talk of this eroding US soft power outside the West, particularly in ASEAN countries.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's absolutely untrue. The West the West has gone out of its way to redefine what a genocide is. Even saying that that's required in a parliament host in Europe.

The challenges are coming from countries that are aligned with Russia and Iran. That's so blatantly obvious. The fact that you didn't include it in your statement really makes your intentions questionable here. Meanwhile, we have the former president of the icj, the lady who literally penned the decision saying that they didn't rule. It was plausibly a genocide and that all the stupid people out there claiming it's a genocide. Not only don't understand the ruling but they don't understand the topic. Seems like you're part of that crowd.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oooohkay.

I studied genocides at university and I damn well know what one is when I see one. I also studied Apartheid so I know exactly why South Africa brought its case. And I have a longstanding interest in human rights law.

all the stupid people out there... seems like you're part of that

You're being really offensive now.

If we're up to you "questioning" my "intentions" here, lets quit while we're ahead, there's absolutely no value in a discussion where you accuse me of being a Russian troll and in turn I accuse you of being a Hasbara shill. I entered this conversation in good faith but it's pointless now.

Thank you for the discussion, have a nice weekend, goodbye.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

So you know more than the icj? If there was a genocide ongoing, why didn't they put a stop to the hostilities? Why did the president of the icj come out and explicitly clear the record that their judgment was not that there is a plausible genocide happening right now? If you study genocide as you claim, why would the icj allow one to continue if one in fact was happening? They intervene in Russia, Ukraine. They didn't intervene in Israel.