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If Russia wins in Ukraine, the US may be stretched so thin it would leave the door wide open for China, war analysts warn (www.businessinsider.com)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

If everyone was friendly, why did Ukraine not give Russia their soverign land? The people of Ukraine voted for Zelensky fighting Russian influence for this exact reason. NATO continues to exist to promote stability and peace in the EU full stop. They're a defensive pact to deter outside aggression. Ukraine believes joining this pact will protect them from Russian aggression. Much like Finland and Sweden. Come on now, even Switzerland has chosen the side of Ukraine here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

If everyone was friendly, why did Ukraine not give Russia their soverign land?

Everyone was friendly right after the dissolution of the SU. With the prospect of NATO expansion and initially friendly Russia getting declined 3 times into the alliance they added 1 and 1 together.

The people of Ukraine voted for Zelensky fighting Russian influence for this exact reason.

Zelenski got voted for because he promised an end to the civil war in donbas https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955 https://www.france24.com/en/20190416-russian-speakers-ukraine-candidate-talking-language

a defensive pact

Like in Yugoslavia?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Zelensky was voted for many reasons, this is surely a component of it! His charismatic effect and desire for sovereign governance are others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but the protection of the Russian minority was a key mandate.

You want to talk about historical context yet fail to contextualize anything shown to you. Your "spurring debate" is actually just bad propaganda

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly! Ukraine's goals aim to unify a diverse population! Majority and minority alike. It's a beautiful resistance movement towards outside Russian aggression negatively impacting the lives of the Russian minority in Eastern Ukraine!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I wonder why and how that "outside Russian aggression" came about

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