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Mozilla says Apple’s new browser rules are “as painful as possible” for Firefox (www.theverge.com)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, not really, because you could use android, and it commands 70% of the global market share

Also, the way the law is, you have to have both a monopoly & also be causing substantial harm to the public. I.e. you can have a monopoly if it's really nice and more like a public utility. So after the Microsoft antitrust case (for basically same thing), it's been very hard to justify breaking up tech companies or banks

If a company acquires its monopoly by using business acumen, innovation and superior products, it is regarded to be legal; if a firm achieves monopoly through predatory or exclusionary acts, then it leads to anti-trust concern

For example, business can defense that its business conducts bring merits for consumers

(Wikipedia)

What happened with Microsoft browser tie ins antitrust?

Ultimately, the Circuit Court overturned Jackson's holding that Microsoft should be broken up as an illegal monopoly. However, the Circuit Court did not overturn Jackson's findings of fact, and held that traditional antitrust analysis was not equipped to consider software-related practices like browser tie-ins

So in short, Apple's legal / business strategy here is totally solid. Arguably helps users, defended by precedent, and doesn't dominate market share. Of course they have to debate all this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

if a firm achieves monopoly through predatory or exclusionary acts, then it leads to anti-trust concern

Hey, ChatGPT ...?

Closed Ecosystem: Apple is known for its closed ecosystem, which can limit users' choices. For instance, iOS users can only download apps from the App Store, and Apple tightly controls the app approval process.

Proprietary Connectors: Apple often uses proprietary connectors and cables, such as the Lightning port, which can be inconvenient for users who want more universal standards like USB-C.

Repairability Issues: Apple products are often criticized for being difficult to repair. For example, the company discourages third-party repairs and designs its products with components that are challenging to replace.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, USB-C didn’t exist when Lightning was introduced, and it was vastly superior to Micro-USB.

It doesn’t really have any reason to exist now…

Agreed with your other points though!

I have an old iPad that I try to reuse for another purpose and all the locks to stop me to keep using it make it such a pain in the butt, when the alternative is simply to enable developer mode on an Android tablet.

Thankfully I remembered when buying a laptop and skipped the very enticing M-series hardware, because in 5-7 years that thing is a brick destined for the landfill.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, USB-C didn’t exist when Lightning was introduced

Hmm, I wonder why that was?

Lightning is a proprietary computer bus and power connector, created and designed by Apple Inc. It was introduced on September 12, 2012

Design for the USB-C connector was initially developed in 2012 by Apple Inc. and Intel.

So Apple helped develop USB-C but failed to integrate it into their products for a decade. Now, why would they do that?

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_(connector)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Because it’s not a superior connector. Lightning is better as a purely charging port. It’s less fragile and doesn’t have a million competing implementations. One of the most frustrating things about USB-C is you can’t be sure if a cable is actually going to work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Here's the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

Lightning is a proprietary computer bus and power connector, created and designed by Apple Inc. It was introduced on September 12, 2012, in conjunction with the iPhone 5, to replace its predecessor, the 30-pin dock connector. The Lightning connector is used to connect Apple mobile devices like iPhones, iPads, and iPods to host computers, external monitors, cameras, USB battery chargers, and other peripherals. Using 8 pins instead of 30, Lightning is much smaller than its predecessor. The Lightning connector is reversible.

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