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"b-but bears are actually dangerous!" Shut the hell up.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

but but whataboutism at it's finest. great job mate. fantastic work, on behalf of all men, I'd like to ask: FUCKING STOP. Stop trying to stick up for our side because it's not helping.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are no sides here. The fact that you think their are sides tips your bias. Every human is capable of horrible things regardless of age, race, or sex. The bear thing is so dumb and clickbait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Funny, because every single woman I've spoken too IMMEDIATELY understood and picked the bear.

Don't you think it's odd that women everywhere are choosing a wild 800lb beast instead of putting their faith in men?

Perhaps there's a reason you're tiny mind just can't comprehend.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no, I live in a state where we have bears.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, if you lived in India, you would have had a point about walking down the street rape. However, walking down the street rape in the United States does not occur as much as you think it does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah the only place women have to worry about is india?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/police-say-missing-indiana-woman-kept-in-cage-in-mobile-home/1089765/

https://news.sky.com/story/who-is-josef-fritzl-the-rapist-who-kept-his-daughter-locked-in-a-cellar-for-24-years-12878269#:~:text=Fritzl was jailed for life,no longer posed a danger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Colleen_Stan#:~:text=According to Stan%2C Hooker feared,for the next three years.

https://fox59.com/news/arrests-made-in-connection-to-missing-person-investigation-in-evansville/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/man-holds-teen-girl-captive-dog-cage-no-prison_n_5cc9a10ae4b0e4d7572c4a58

https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/08/justice/mobile-home-captive-freed/index.html

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/mystery/did-a-couple-who-kept-victim-captive-for-7-years-kill-missing-teen-marie-elizabeth-spannhake#:~:text=She also recalled Spannhake wouldn,a state park%2C she claimed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_violence_against_women

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Incidents_of_violence_against_girls

https://www.nativehope.org/missing-and-murdered-indigenous-women-mmiw

https://people.com/crime/gallery-elizabeth-smart-jaycee-dugard-kidnapping-survivors/

https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-serial-killers-of-women/ranker-crime

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvv.pdf

not like evidence will sway you but for the rest of the class, fuck off with your absurd takes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No. But India has the worst gang rape of women walking on the street than anywhere else.https://apnews.com/article/india-sexual-violence-rape-b9016c82074c08583080db846d64055b

South Africa had a poll where 1 in 4 men admitted to rape. https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/report/84909/south-africa-one-four-men-rape

America is not bad for walking down the street violent rape like you are talking about. They gang raped a girl on a bus in India.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

so you're insinuating that men have a rape problem?

huh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying all people have a rape problem. Just the link you gave where a couple raped a girl. I'm also saying America has a low walking down the street rape problem compared to India, South Africa, and Botswana.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you spend a lot of time thinking about rape in other countries don't you?

huh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not as much as you when you're walking down the street.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I spend zero time worrying about being raped, I'm a cis gender white male.

But you see, there's this thing called empathy - and when women tell me they're worried, I genuinely believe them, because history shows their fears are well founded.

huh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is a higher chance of being mauled by a pitbull than being violently sexually assaulted on the streets of America yet there is a large portion of people that say it's not the breed, it's how they were raised.

Why aren't men talked about with similar empathy? Why don't we acknowledge there are more women pedophiles recieve lighter sentences and sometimes aren't convicted at all? Do you have empathy for these children?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know you're happy to herring the argument in any direction to get a concession. I have empathy for lots of people, but it doesn't reduce the calculus: a woman might be harmed or killed by a bear, but the bear will never kidnap her and keep her in a cage, much less rape her.

Huh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Herring? Don't bring fish into this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A Red Herring argument is one that changes the subject, distracting the audience from the real issue to focus on something else where the speaker feels more comfortable and confident.

Your argument is tenuous and rambling, I'm going to block you now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I'm pretty sure we were talking about walking down the street safety and sexual violence. Both if which are well within the boundaries of an argument. You can't just say "herring" and "rambling" and claim to make a great point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the logical fallacy.

Just because women can be rapists, and indeed, there are women who are rapists, does not and should not have any bearing on the point.

This is the same as yelling "all lives matter" into a crowd of BLM protestors. Yeah, no shit. Just because one thing is true doesn't mean that the inverse is impossible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I thought we were doing over broad, unnecessarily divisive generalities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago