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[–] [email protected] 116 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Yes, but unfortunately, it's also "fuck it, increase risk of my kid/grandma dying a painful, early death"

[–] [email protected] 100 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nobody would give two shits if that was the problem. The problem is that their behavior endangers the safety of others and the integrity of society.

I don't just mean people who cannot be vaccinated. Without vaccines, lockdowns like the ones during the covid pandemic would be in effect pretty much all the time. We have functioning vaccines against diseases that are much worse than covid. We got lucky in 2020.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

People like to bitch and moan about the inconveniences endured during covid and would use terms like "doom sayers" to insult people who promoted lockdowns and vaccines. Under the guise of "it wasn't that bad".

Yeah, no shit Sherlock. Without lockdowns and vaccines it would've been ten times worse. We actually got relatively scot-free. Huge swaths of the developing world endured millions of deaths.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Anyone with more than two brain cells to run together, who learns about the "Spanish Flu" of 1918-1920, should immediately say "I'm getting vaccinated, I'm wearing a mask and I'm self isolating". 50 million people died. 50 million! We got lucky with COVID because so many people unselfishly did those things.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

50 million out of 1.8 billion population. Or 2.78% of the poulaton died.

Today the same death rate for a pandemic would be around 225 million people.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

I was tracking the pandemic and the mortality rate among patients who had to be hospitalized during the initial strain was over 5% at times! People really don't get how lucky we are that the omicron and subsequent variants has lower mortality. Imagining even 10 or 15% would completely collapse our medical system altogether.