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"b-but bears are actually dangerous!" Shut the hell up.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This topic keeps coming up because people keep talking past each other. There is a real, measured, evidence backed problem. The victims are saying “I feel this way, and it causes me to behave this way” and those who are neither victims nor perpetrators are upset about the way they are choosing to express that in a general sense. Now this meme itself is not more helpful than the bear, it didn’t give any new information. But it’s a good expression of that general frustration when no one listens. At least on Lemmy, there is a certain defensive response rather than an understanding empathetic one on this topic. This meme in particular seems harsh, but it’s driven by decades of talking about this, or not being able to talk about this, because the response is always so negative. Everything from “why did you dress that way” to “you should have know before you married them” to “not only women” (yes but that’s the topic at hand so). I would hope that some can come to understand this sentiment. I hope that this community improves.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If we could just add one more line at the bottom: "but men's feelings ARE important", then I think we'd be on the right path.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or just replace the whole thing with

"dont assault anyone.

physically, mentally or emotionally.

Man, woman, or in between."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It would get zero upvotes because everyone agrees with that statement.

The problem with the bear thing is it was always about feelings, not safety. Men's and women's feelings. Perceptions of safety.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well upvotes ARE the most important thing.