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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I assume in large cities? In the burbs, people riding bikes for fun.. not for transportation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Skill issue. The only reason people there are like that is because the suburbs were designed wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Seems to be specific to Saanich, BC. It's about 2k pop/mi^2^, which is like medium density suburb (single family zoning with small yards).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I live in rural suburbia and after buying an ebike I almost never drive. That'll change when winter comes. For now, everything I do often that doesn't require taking the kids with me, I take the bike. Liquor store, cafe, corner store, park, pleasure ride, picking up a burger or sandwich but not a pizza, exploring, all better on a bike. Better fitness, more enjoyment, and cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I live in the suburbs. Luckily, my city has a somewhat good trail network that can take me 10-15 miles to downtown and I only have to cross a handful of roads at grade. There are places I can't easily get to with a bike, but the number of places I can get to is much larger than I had thought. A lot of these paths and routes weren't known to me because they run along creeks and drainages where I can't see them easily from the road.

On a recent weekday during evening rush hour, I found myself speeding down the freeway at a whopping 5mph wishing I had ridden my bike.

To be fair, there are a lot of places in the suburbs that aren't bikeable at all, but I think people would be surprised.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Read the article. 😊 I mean, it's even in the one sentence summary.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I live in burbs and use cycle for transit. collar burb though and our public trans is good to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Interesting.. in the midwest, the burbs would be difficult to cycle for transportation. Stores for example aren't as crammed as it is in the cities like Chicago, Detroit, and NYC. However in some parts of the burbs there's plazas right as you leave the neighborhood.

I personally couldn't use cycling (including motorcycle) as a transportation for just about 99% of the things I do outside of my neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Isn't that the problem, though? That cities are built such that the only feasible way to do things in them is to drive?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

im in a collar suburb of chicago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I don't know what that means.. not all suburbs are "collar" suburbs. Where I live, the closest grocery store for example, is 3 miles away. Closest fast food is 2 miles away. My gym is 6 miles away. Work is 12 miles away. Mall? Closest one is to the north, 16 miles away and to the south, 22 miles away. Not a single one of these locations would I use a bicycle as transportation. In fact even if I wanted to cycle to any of these places, I couldn't... I'm not biking 10-20 grocery bags weighing anywhere between 45-90lbs combined. I'm not going to retrofit my gym bag as a backpack and bike to the gym. Hell even if I didn't have a gym bag, lol imaging cycling after a squat or deadlift day? I'm good.

The point I'm making is, whatever your living conditions are, whatever you use as transportation.. is not going to be the same for everyone else. Maybe you're into the whole vision of 15 minute cities that WEF would love to implement, but it's definitely not going to happen in our lifetime. That's an entire restructuring of the lay of the land. Better off colonizing another planet to implement it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

lol imaging cycling after a squat or deadlift day?

Literally every time, 40 minute ride into work, weights then 40 minute ride home at the end of the day. Light cardio reduces DOMS.

If you can't function after a leg heavy workout, there is something wrong with your programming.

If you can't cycle after a workout, the is something wrong with your programming.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My regular bicycle is leg day lol, I ride my ebike on recovery days. Would recommend!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Forcing yourself to stay seated on hillclimbs is basically just repeating alternating one-leg deadlifts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Yep, even people living side-by-side may have very different transportation needs; the goal is to encourage bike use where possible, as it benefits everyone. Bikes don't have to replace every trip either. An e-bike can do 20mph (i.e. 3 mins per mile) with minimal effort, so the times for some of your trips are quite reasonable:

  • Grocery: 9 minutes
  • Fast food: 6 minutes
  • Gym: 18 minutes (this is a bit high, but it's also exercise, so it kind of works out)

Cargo e-bikes can handle a 100lb load, so your grocery and gym bags are no problem.

All this is not to say that a bike would be a good fit for you, just that they can handle a lot more than you give them credit for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

There are absolutely people who live in the suburbs and still use some form of micromobility as regular transport. I live in a suburb and commute by bicycle or ebike almost every day unless the weather is really bad or I have to haul something very heavy/big.