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‘Pure greed:’ Etiquette expert explains why tipping has gotten out of control
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this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2023
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There's nothing wrong with tipping. I like the option to reward someone who made my experience great. Keyword there is option. Employers should pay employees a living wage, and if customers want to reward a great job with a few bucks on top of that, that should be allowed, even encouraged, but should never feel obligated to tip or shamed for not tipping.
You should feel ashamed for making someone act as your slave for minimum wage. The least you could do is pay them what they're worth.
If you don't like it, don't force tipped workers to work for you. You have full control here. You could just cook your own damn food.
Pretty sure you're not responding to the employer
The customer creates the demand.
I said living wage, homie, not minimum wage. I think everyone should be paid at least a living wage, I just said tipping in general isn't bad - it just shouldn't be used to supplement poor wages.
Okay, but they don't have a living wage, so you don't get to have that option. Either tip or stop using those services.
What fucking conversation do you think you're a part of? Because you're clearly not reading my comments before responding to them.
You said customers should never feel obligated or ashamed. Never. I definitely feel ashamed of using these services and feel obligated to tip generously, and you should too.
You're either intentionally being obtuse or are just plain stupid. Customers SHOULDNT be in a position of being forced to tip or be ashamed for normal acitivitues. Absolutely required tipping should not be a thing. It should be optional. It doesn't matter what the current culture is, because that's not the conversation. That's the point.
But they are in a position of being ashamed because those workers need tips. Shoulda woulda coulda, I don't like it when people decide to not tip as some kind of political protest against tipping.
Let's never talk about changing anything because it's not the current climate then, yeah? There's no point in discussing change at all, clearly, since it doesn't apply to specifically exactly what's currently going on. Truly you are a paragon of our time
Refusing to tip will not change anything.
Reading comprehension was never your strong suit huh? Either that or you failed in debate class. You have the worst debate tactics I've seen in a long time.
I'm just a stupid piece of shit and should kill myself. Tell me more about how I'm a failure and I don't know how to read. Unf I'm almost there~
You said it, not me
Please learn how to have an actual conversation without the pity party
You definitely said I can't read and can't debate and am a failure. Bully shit.
Me? When did I specifically say that? Me specifically? Maybe check who you're replying to :)
Whatever, replace "you" with "that poster".
The point stands. Bully shit. Mocking me for it with a cheeky smiley doesn't help either.
Chill, please, you definitely shouldn't kill yourself. Ain't big deal if someone in the internet is wrong
Dogpiling doesn't feel good. Being told I can't read, can't debate, and am a failure doesn't feel good. I got angry.
So we're in agreement then? Why are you lighting me up when we're clearly on the same side? You need to learn to recognize an ally and save the anger for someone who deserves it, or you'll find yourself without any allies.
I don't know if we are, actually.
Do you still use these services? And if you do, do you tip?
Yes, I go to restaurants every so often, and I always tip and tip well. I refuse to punish the workers for the broken system. That doesn't degrade my argument that they should be paid a living wage instead of having to rely on tips at all.
When I say customers should not feel ashamed or obligated to tip, I mean that the system should change in such a way that tips are not expected and workers are paid a living wage. The system is not currently like that, we get that. Snapping back at me over the way the system IS when we both agree on how it should be is being intentionally argumentative for no reason.
Then we are in agreement. I read your comment as unconditional i.e. customers should never be pressured to tip, regardless of the wages of the worker.