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Cars that won't spy on you? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I was considering buying a Chevy Bolt lately to use as my daily commuter but found out it collects a lot of data and phones it back. It's hard to do research on what kind of EV I could buy that doesn't collect your location data so I'm hoping someone here might have some good suggestions.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No such animal exists. They’re all rolling data collection machines.

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/

I drive a bolt. To somewhat minimize the GM evil, I don’t have the GM app installed and I didn’t give the Bluetooth connection access to anything but Apple CarPlay. Of course if you’re a real privacy purist, you don’t have a smartphone and don’t use Bluetooth anyway.

If you want a car with privacy, you’ll have to buy an old car without a computer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Cars have been required to have computers since 1996.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Computer - yes, in the technical term. Traditional car ECUs don't gather data, GPS, driving habits, etc. and phone home though. Also, as another user said, the regulations starting in 96 were for OBD2 ports. Cars already had computers before then.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In addition, the issue is arguably less the collection of data, and more the ability for the car to actually send that data somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Yep. You want the car to collect telementry data for help in diagnosing issues as needed. That's not at all the issue, and nobody would be mad if the companies treated the data with respect.

Unfortunately that's not going to happen unless legislation forces it to.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Don't pretend you don't understand the distinction between what was ostensibly mandated in '96 and what we currently have