this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2024
601 points (96.6% liked)

Political Memes

5446 readers
3282 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I read words, not minds.

Is Biden making this country better, or worse?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The country is getting worse, and he is not reversing that trend. By maintaining Capitalism, he is participating in making it worse. Occasionally he comes out with a nice act or law, but within the broader context of the direction the country is going, it matters little.

I've said the same thing 3 times now, you're not getting another.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay. So it's impossible for Biden to make anything better unless he undoes capitalism? Any good things he does are overshadowed by capitalism?

Isn't that a bit dogmatic? You're mistaking the means (socialism) for the ends (better society, happier people).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He can alleviate some of its pains, but he cannot make things better overall without moving towards Worker Ownership.

I am not mistaking the means for the ends, the ends are achieved via means, and if Capitalism is currently continuing to decline then the ends cannot be achieved without moving towards Socialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and if Capitalism is currently continuing to decline

You're ignoring the "if" though. We have clear examples of how capitalism can succeed in the Scandinavian countries (I would call them socialist, but you would say they're not, we've had this discussion). If Capitalism in the US moves in that direction, would you be willing to abandon socialism because we have a better path to societal happiness?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Social Democracies still depend on Imperialism to subidize their safety nets, still see decay (albeit at a lower rate), and still have the inherent exploitation of Capitalism. If you could fix Capitalism, I would be the first in line, haha.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on all those points?

What empire does Scandinavia have?

What signs of "decay" do you see?

What do you mean by exploitation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Scandinavian countries export industrial and financial Capital to the Global South, to Super-Exploit internationally for domestic Super-Profits.

Scandinavian countries have seen decreasing social safety nets and rising inequality.

Capitalism inherently contains the exploitation of the Worker by the Owner, where the Owner pays the Worker less than the value the Worker creates, and profits from that difference.