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Men Overran a Job Fair for Women in Tech (www.wired.com)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But it is an asshole move to show up to an event meant for one group of people when the original issue is how over represented your group is. I’m a developer. The grind sucks. But I would be an asshole to show up to this.

If I was out of job, I would honestly care less about the fact that "my group" is over represented. There is no white male lobby that pays my mortgage. That said, I - as in the actual me - would not go to such event either, but that's also because I wouldn't go to any job fair atm since I don't need a job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would honestly care less about the fact that

Sure, that's what makes people behave like assholes. "I don't care about X" is why we have a pretty shitty world in many areas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is pure rhetoric, I can flip the argument:

"You care more about the gender than about my material condition."

Also, the moment I need to let prevail abstract concepts over my material condition (i.e., caring about "my group" being over represented while I am out of a job) is the moment in which the class unity is broken. Me and those women who are out of a job have so much in common that there is no reason for me to consider us part of two separate groups. That's the whole point of my argument, I advocate for worker solidarity and I absolutely feel that this attitude is overall harmful for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't agree. I can be at a disadvantage and still accept that another group has even greater disadvantages that I would continue or make worse by stepping into something they built. Its freeloading in a pretty assholish way. I'm not just some animal trying to get a nut with narrow focus that says fuck everything else. I can job search and find my own opportunities without freeloading