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Does anyone think that there'll ever be a simple EV car produced for market without all the extra junk found in most electric cars? Why or why not?

I don't see the need for the infotainment dash, personal data tracking, self-driving, lack of physical buttons, and lack or reparability.

Wouldn't it be nice to have an EV that is probably cheaper without all that forced extra stuff? Can't we just have a simple EV that has an electric engine that is reliable, cheaper, and doesn't have a need for constant software updates? Maybe you can work on it in your garage for the most part for simple maintenance.

I'd really like to have an EV one day but seems like they are all super expensive, have no sense of ownership like typical cars, are constantly tracking you, and are trying to shove extra features down your throat.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

infotainment dash

Cars in the US are required to have rear-facing cameras. There's going to be a screen for that. It makes sense to incorporate some things into that screen, because that's what people expect now. Android Auto/Car Play for sure. Doesn't have to be a touchscreen; Mazda does that right with a center console knob and buttons.

OTA software updates are a good thing, to be able to address service issues without having to go to a dealership. Previously, car computer updates had to be done with a USB stick.

electric engine that is reliable

Electric motors are super reliable and hardly ever need servicing. Batteries are getting better, but as of right now, you have to replace the entire battery pack, at great cost. I'd love to see a more modular battery configuration with replaceable cells.

self-driving

Adaptive cruise control is a game changer in every way. It makes driving so much safer. The radar is already there, might as well using it for lane departure and steering assist.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Just to clarify, I didn't mean that electric engines weren't reliable. It was more of a combination of things I'd like to see in an EV. And I'm all down for all those other features too! I just would like a barebones option for us poors, you know? You can have different tiered options, and maybe getting rid of all the extra features can make for a reliable cheaper car. And in a barebones model, why would you need constant OS updates? Just have the engine tuned like other things in a car like electric fuel injection. Everything else should be like clockwork.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And in a barebones model, why would you need constant OS updates?

It's an OS. It needs constant updates.

Open-source code is generally better, but your response time needs to be immediate. If you're not patching, be worried.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Then comes the question of how long will you receive support? When is EoL?

I would almost like a larger backer supporting it but obviously we don't want most of the existing large tech companies for fear of injecting ads directly onto your display or data mining or worse.

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