this post was submitted on 18 Apr 2024
658 points (89.4% liked)

Lefty Memes

4354 readers
428 users here now

An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!

Rules

Version without spoilers

0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.


The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)


6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



  1. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Good thing we (the US) lost the war, or this lady would probably have her own team of lobbyists running their country.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is a discussion about personal morals. Some people think it's OK to execute some criminals, others are completely opposed to that idea. There is no objective right or wrong here.

For you your arguments might be compelling, but they don't convince me. I can have complete control over someone and still decide to kill them because I don't want to bother with locking them up, for example. And who says a society should not kill? That's not even an argument, just an opinion.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is no objective right or wrong here.

No, the state killing people is objectively wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fucking lol. I love Lemmy. I've never seen such an obscure group of people speak in absolutes so consistently. Puts reddit to shame.

"I WILL DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG"

"I WILL DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD OR EVIL"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

“I WILL DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG”

I don't decide. The state murdering people is wrong. I just have the moral wherewithal to recognize the fact.

Which isn't hard because it's objectively true.

Hope this helps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok, I'll play along for a bit.

The state murdering people is wrong.

Prove it is wrong. Use facts and data to prove capital punishment is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Steven-Chowder-at-a-card-table over here.

I'm not gonna "debate me!" somebody who think murder is cool and good; it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know who that is. Sorry.

Because you can't. Because it's completely subjective. You've got nothing. Just whiny emotions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You good, mate? Do you need a friend or someone to talk to?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Won't you be my neighbor?