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The company's team clarified that their terms prohibit third-party apps from disabling ads, as it denies creators their due reward for viewership. Although the announcement did not specify any app by name, it's plausible to presume that third-party YouTube apps such as NewPipe, YouTube ReVanced, Piped, and others might be implicated.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 7 months ago (5 children)

YouTube is the only one that doesn't have an alternative. I mean, there are other video hosts yes, but the content isn't there.

The creators need to start moving. Their fans will likely follow, since it's not YouTube they are there for. But I don't think anyone else offering free, large scale video hosting does much more, if even that, than what YouTube does. Even if it sucks, it's better than nothing, so there is no incentive to move for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most of their fans won't follow. Convenience is a powerful thing.

There also really aren't other options. Anyone being able to sign up and host video for free is an extremely expensive service to provide if people take you up on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If enough creators moved, the fans would follow.

Unfortunately, the creators won't move to a platform that doesn't have users to watch them. And users won't bother with a platform that doesn't have creators to watch.

While this can be overcome... Yeah, I think googie will need to fork up yootoob a lot more before enough on both sides are willing to jump ship en masse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Some fans would follow. If 100% of their subscribed channels moved tomorrow, 90% still wouldn't move to the new platform for a meaningful length of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Some of the creators I follow are moving.... Kind of. Most of their videos get taken down for some stupid ass reason so they're going to places like patreon and whatever other platform you have to pay a monthly sub to. Which at that point, I just don't watch them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nebula is trying to be the alternative. It's a paid subscription and not as plentiful as YouTube is (and maybe never will be).

But it's a good try, give it some support, if you can

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It isn't much better in terms of content moderation though. In fact probably worst.

They kicked off JT, of Second Thought one of the original creators, for refusing to make a both sides statement about Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

With the news of Google's new deal with Israel, I was considering Nebula. That is sad to hear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://www.piped.video/watch?v=cnc1Pp61SVk

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Problem being that there is no real incentive to do so, unless PeerTube finds a way to pay content creators. Until then, switching away from YouTube means loosig their revenue stream...requiring them to take up jobs to pay the bills and eventually have less time for content creation.

Living on donations and patreon alone is hard...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

unless PeerTube finds a way to pay content creators

Google is a for-profit organization. Framasoft, which developed PeerTube, is a non-profit one. The only way to pay content creators is when people donate money to PeerTube and then PeerTube share that money with creators. Which is also difficult because there are no trackers to know internally who has more subscribers or which video has more views, etc. Internally as using a tracker, but you have to visit one by one every channel and every video to know its numbers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I tried Nabula twice. The latest in 2020.

Service is fine but their UI + search and discover is awful. Like I can barely find creators I like when I search for their exact channel name.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

There is also PeerTube and Odysee.

But I have a mixed feelings on the latter.