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You're treading a fine line Mr. Tim Apple (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online

Proof please. Since it never went to court, nothing like this would have been "found" through the process of discovery. I suspect you're just making shit up.

They also provided means to publicly available bios keys.

Nope, you had to rip your own to use the software.

They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.

Users chatting on discord != yuzu doing it.

Nothing about Yuzu itself as a program was illegal. Period. How some of the developers talked in their Discord shows that they were using it for illegal things, which fucked them. Not the application itself.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

https://twitter.com/Zetta_330/status/1765081419687371165

Look for yourself, they used someone else’s code, it’s technically not illegal according to the CLA of GitHub , but that’s not relevant to DCMA. It requires them to reverse engineer the code for an emulator, which they didn’t do.

The dev provided the means in discord themselves, they also had a google drive with a ripped key, they also had files on discord of roms to test their gamesc which were acquired illegally.

Please tell me what they did right to claim game preservation…?

The fact that it didn’t go to discovery when other cases have is damning in itself, and you want it in your court? Okay….

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

https://twitter.com/Zetta_330/status/1765081419687371165 Look for yourself, they used someone else’s code, it’s technically not illegal according to the CLA of GitHub...

It has nothing to do with some made up CLA that GitHub doesn't even have ರ⁠_⁠ರ , it's a matter of the license the project is under. Which is open source, e.g. GPL, Apache, MIT, etc. all of which doesn't prevent the use of the code in other open source projects, especially when consent was already given before hand.

...but that’s not relevant to DCMA.

You bet your ass it isn't, because the code from Ryujinx doesn't infringe on Nintendo copyright either.

DCMA

It's DMCA.

... It requires them to reverse engineer the code for an emulator, which they didn’t do.

How the shit do you think emulators are created without reverse engineering? You can't be serious.

Please tell me what they did right to claim game preservation…?

They used clean room reverse engineering which is a form of independent creation and already has decades of precedent in its favor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

The fact that it didn’t go to discovery when other cases have is damning in itself, and you want it in your court? Okay….

You realise that Nintendo's coffers are quite huge and they can just bleed out the Devs of yuzu if it had gone to court?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Look for yourself, they used someone else’s code, it’s technically not illegal according to the CLA of GitHub , but that’s not relevant to DCMA. It requires them to reverse engineer the code for an emulator, which they didn’t do.

Did you read the link you sent? "it's coded in an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE."

Hard to steal code when it's not the language your program is written in. And even if they did... "btw the entire basis for this claim is a reddit post from 3 years ago with the "stolen code" in question being ~50 lines of minor gui fixes" Doesn't sound like a whole lot of emulation code is in question here.

The dev provided the means in discord themselves, they also had a google drive with a ripped key, they also had files on discord of roms to test their gamesc which were acquired illegally.

Provide ANY evidence of this please. I don't participate in Discord. So just stating that they published shit there doesn't mean much to me.

Please tell me what they did right to claim game preservation…?

I don't have to. Emulation is 100% covered REGARDLESS of what they did "right" or "wrong". It's other actions that caused them to settle. Not YUZU as a program.

The fact that it didn’t go to discovery when other cases have is damning in itself, and you want it in your court? Okay….

No it doesn't. It doesn't mean a damn thing. What the fuck are you high on?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Have they blocked you yet?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don't know. We'll find out I suppose. I responded to a different comment of theirs. But I suspect they did.

Edit: They didn't... So they're just refusing to answer these particular points.