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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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The far right hates the Jewish people and is also reflexively pro-Israel
They hate Jewish people and Muslim people. They are cheering for conflict, not for a specific side.
No, they are absolutely pro-Israel, and constantly use their unwavering support for Israel as a bludgeon against their political opponents who have a more nuanced view
Show me evidence that the far right are pro Israel, because I've seen plenty of nazis and far right losers cheer for Palestine
In the USA the fascist evangelicals support Israel because the Left Behind novel series posits that the return of Christ rests on all the Jews dying in a war with Russia.
The right in general has always been pro-Isreal, even while being anti-jew in many other contexts. The fact that the far right happens to show up anti-jew in more more contexts doesn't really change that.
Heavy leaning conservatives have always had the ability to hold opposing viewpoints at the same time in a way the left hasn't quite been able to grasp. At least not to that extent. The left can be just as hypocritical, but they tend to tie themselves down a bit by feeling as though they have to be able to somehow explain why their viewpoints don't conflict while the right just changes the subject.
It's pretty easy to see what their opinions are by looking at /pol/.
Perhaps the people who support a Jewish state and the people who hate Jewish folk aren't one in the same.
In the US, there is a large contingent of the political right who believe both of these things