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cross-posted from: https://kbin.earth/m/[email protected]/t/1528736

After 20 years, PNG is back with renewed vigor! A new PNG spec was just released.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I didn't know PNG ever went away. I'm using em all the time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

The title is hyperbole. PNG is lagging behind modern lossless formats in terms of new features.
This doesn't mean it's a bad format or that it shouldn't be used. In fact, it should still be the default unless you need something it doesn't support or really need to reduce file size.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

In fact, it should still be the default unless you need something it doesn’t support or really need to reduce file size.

I disagree. It is wasteful (we're talking ~30% savings with lossless WebP or JPEG-XL) and widely misused, which matters at the massive scale of the Internet with technically inexperienced people making up plenty of those images.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Congratulations, your noob user is now using JPEG-XL. It's not working on old devices, or any mainstream browser besides Safari. The less mature library also has a bug that allows for RCE and now everyone is running a cryptominer.

Now you say, but webp is supported everywhere, so let's go with that. Now the noob is using wepb for a bunch of rasterised vector graphics with 4 or 5 flat colors, and he's wasting more disk space than before.

So I repeat, if you need one size fits all, PNG is better, it works everywhere, and it's even more efficient in cases where lossless graphics matter the most.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Now the noob is using wepb for a bunch of rasterised vector graphics with 4 or 5 flat colors, and he’s wasting more disk space than before.

I just tested with this image:

Default GIMP WebP export settings (90% quality): 88.8 kB

Lossless WebP mode: 85.6 kB

Default GIMP PNG export settings (compression level 9): 189.8 kB

So I don't trust this claim unless you have some evidence.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago

I can't see this image in the mobile app

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