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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just move the f’ing convention. It’s not just Alabama

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In 2020 alone, states like Alabama, Illinois, Montana, and Washington all allowed provisional certification for Democratic and Republican nominees,” the campaign official said.

In 2020, Alabama’s GOP-controlled Legislature passed a law to “accommodate the dates of the 2020 Republican National Convention,” shifting the state’s certification deadline for parties from 82 days before the election to 75 days that year.

Republican convention in 2020 was August 24th-27th, even later than the democrats scheduled this year. These laws are silly too, helping to encourage the already ridiculously long presidential campaign to take even longer by pushing conventions further back. Trump can't be kept off the ballot for an insurrection, but setting a deadline earlier than most states that exceptions are routinely made for and it's never been an issue before? Well that's serious, better keep him off the ballot I guess /s.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ohio too...

The people running the DNC are completely fucking incompetent if they can't even work a fucking calendar.

Why are we letting this group of unelected idiots be so involved with our political system?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think that might be an unfair assessment of the situation, at least in Alabama.

They're clearly playing favorites, it's not the first time a party didn't meet the deadline and they've always been accommodated.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

it’s not the first time a party didn’t meet the deadline and they’ve always been accommodated.

I know both parties missed it in 2020, so some states moved it for both.

But thats the only time I've heard of it happening.

And while republicans and trump finally got their shit together and figured out how a calendar works, the DNC and Biden did not.

There is a very easy fix here, the DNC follows the rules and moves up their convention. And hopefully they can remember to look at a calendar in 2028.

But why in the absolute fuck are we still letting them run the only other option when they're this fucking stupid?

Like, did you already forget about them demanding the NH party violate state election law a few months ago?

This is an established pattern of behavior: the DNC doesn't think rules apply to them.

That should scare the shit out of everyone

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm greatly in favor of anyone pressuring NH over this. There's no reason why Iowa and New Hampshire should get such an outsized roll in deciding who the nominees are, over and over again, every election, for a century. And the people who live in states farther in the primary calendar basically get no say. There should be a rotation of states if anything.

New Hampshire's state law is ridiculous and unenforceable too, all it would take is another state passing their own law saying, no we go first, and suddenly there is no way both laws could be upheld at the same time, and they're trying to hopscotch each other pushing farther and farther back in the calendar. Policies like New Hampshire's law are why we have candidate debates over a year before the actual election! Whole situation is ridiculous.

While I share some of your concerns about the DNC, I'm not gonna shed a tear for the voters in New Hampshire and Iowa that had more say than anyone else in the country about who would be president for a century.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’m greatly in favor of anyone pressuring NH over this.

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The only ones that can change NH state law, is the NH state government...

And they're all Republicans. They ain't changing the law to help Democrats.

So if you're saying you're ok with this, that means you're ok with disenfranchising all the Democrats in that state for something they have zero control of.

I'm not saying that's not what you're doing, it seems like you think it's perfectly fine.

But it's incredibly undemocratic and embarrassing to see so many people with your opinion

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

No that's incorrect, the party could always have arranged their own nominating contest and still had delegates. There was nothing preventing them from doing that, and that's what the DNC urged them to do many times. The state cannot stop a political party (a private organization) from picking their own candidates and delegates. For instance, in Nevada the republican party there decided they did not want to line up with the state selected primary date, and held their own caucus instead that did award delegates.

The state democratic party in New Hampshire that chose not to do this (because they believe they should always get to have first say) and the state government that passed this dumb law (for the same reason) are the ones disenfranchising people here. And no, don't put words in my mouth, I'm not in favor of disenfranchising anyone. The state party should have just held their own nominating contest later so that they would have had delegates. And New Hampshire shouldn't have the sole authority to determine the presidential election schedule for everyone else. If other states acted like them we'd have a never ending game of who's primary is actually first.