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Thinking about how I've been lied to as an #ADHD person about what habits are.

That apparently is not what neurotypical folks get to experience.

Habits are things that they do without thinking.

They don't have to decide to do them. They don't have to remember to do them. Things just happen, automatically, because they've done them enough for that system to engage and make them automatic.

That system...which I lack.

Every single time I have brushed my teeth, it's been an active choice. I've had to devote thought and attention to it. It's not a routine, it's not a habit, it's something that I know is good to do, and hopefully I can remember to do it.

Every single time I exercise, or floss, or pay my rent, or drink water, or say "bless you" when someone sneezes,

It's because I've had to actively and consciously engage the protocol.

It never gets easier.

Just more familiar.

It's part of my struggle with my weight--exercise never becomes a habit, and every single time I do it, it is exactly as hard as the first time. It takes exactly as much willpower & thought.

I got lied to about how it would just "turn into a habit". And blamed, when it didn't.

Drinking water isn't a habit. Feeding myself isn't a habit. Bathing isn't a habit.

I spend so much more energy, so much more time, so much more labor on just managing to maintain my fucking meat suit.

And now you want me to ALSO do taxes?

ON TIME?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ugh, I constantly forget to eat. People would ask “how the hell can you FORGET to eat, for two days” and I’d be like. “three days… I think”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This happens to me all the time. People will ask about the last time I ate, and I’ll tell them “Uhh… I think I had a granola bar for breakfast… two days ago.” Today I ate two full(ish) meals. The last time I remember eating that much is almost three weeks ago. It’s gotten to the point where people think I’m intentionally starving myself, but I just genuinely don’t get hungry. I have no urge to eat, so I constantly forget.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My girlfriend takes me out to dinner twice a week. Most of my calories come from those two weekly nights out. Add in my time blindness and I’ll think that I ate breakfast in the morning, but then realize that it was the previous morning and that I just never noticed the passage of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My mom. Super skinny her whole life. People thought she took care of herself, but I knew that she forgot to eat for days.

I used to think that would be nice. I have the other end of it where I am constantly nibbling for dopamine hits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I’m super skinny. I have trouble keeping weight on. I’m 6’1, male, and like 144 lbs. It’s not good for ya.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

LOL, relatable. I also had to literally train myself over years to feel hungry, and all that training goes away when I’m really stressed. Living with a partner is the best thing for my eating habits. He needs to eat, so I eat… at least once a day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The range of ADHD is wild, I'm just always hungry, I have to consciously stop myself from randomly eating any food in my proximity. If there's a box of crackers, or leftovers in the fridge, I'll eat them, even if I ate an hour ago, if I don't make a conscious effort to remind myself that I ate a meal already. Adderall has helped with me being aware of when I'm not actually hungry, but when the drugs wear off in the evening, I have to be careful about cruising the kitchen/pantry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A few days late, but I just stumbled across the community. I know that when I was on meds I wouldn’t eat for days. Without meds, I’m just Homer Simpson saying “ooh a piece of candy” all day

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How did you train yourself to feel hungry? I need to take medicine to feel hungry and I want to take control of it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry for the long message ahead :)

This is a TL;DR list I wrote to help when my cousin was struggling to eat and having stomach aches whenever he did eat:

  1. By medical definition, “anorexia” just means low/no appetite. Anorexia nervosa is the intentional eating disorder.
  2. Anorexia can cause stomach pains, especially following a meal. Fix this by eating frequent small meals or snacks.
  3. Cut your diet down to bland food and introduce different things in slowly or document your food intake to figure out if there are any allergies/intolerances causing you to not feel well.
  4. Make food a routine using external motivation to eat, such as alarms, calendar invites, or planning meals with coworkers/friends.
  5. Suggested rule of threes: 3 meals, 3 snacks, at least 3 hours apart. Set a timer!
  6. Find easy meals you can always eat. Whether it’s takeout or just something super easy to make, have a staple you can always fall back on when you don’t want to think about food. A rice cooker with a steamer basket was a game changer for me, and lately it’s been Trader Joe’s frozen foods.

Learning #1 was what made me realize my relationship with food was unhealthy and needed to change. #2-3 might not apply to your situation but I’m leaving them in case anyone else needs it.

#4 and 6 really are the answer to your question. When I got my first job out of college, I ate lunch daily with coworkers even if I had no desire to eat, which greatly helped the last thing I’ll share: I redefined what I thought of as hunger.

I realized even when I didn’t consciously feel the need to eat, my body had symptoms. I paid attention to things like lightheadedness, a tightness in my stomach, and shakiness, and started considering those to be “feeling hungry.” After forcing myself to eat more consistently and listening to my body, I actually started to feel hungry on a regular (daily-ish) basis.

Oh, and for a year or two I lifted weights 3x/week and that made me hungrier than I’d ever been in my life. The first three months I always felt hungry. But that’s a bigger commitment than the other suggestions :)

I hope this might help you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Dude. Three days isn’t even my record, and I don’t feel hungry during that time, like at all. Or if I do it’s this vaguely distant feeling that isn’t nearly as important as whatever I’m hyper focusing on at the moment.