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Because I feel like picking on him again: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/04/02/google-podcasts
the only google service i use is institutional gmail. i got myself a pixel, but it's degoogled. he's not even trying
It’s hard to degoogle, but seriously. For non-work personal use, I watch YT videos, and my puzzle team solves in google sheets. That’s it.
Using the Nest app and calling yourself degoogled is clown shit.
That's the markdown guy, right? Goddamn what's with these nerdbros who got popular of one thing and then becoming insufferable, if not actively reactionary shits?
previously
lol. the only google services i use are search , youtube, gmail (in the isolated browser containers), and the android phone. seems the apple licker is not degoogled at all.
While I love a good Gruber-sneer, he does qualify each existing choice extensively. I don't find the post as hypocritical as the edited extract would imply.
His gratuitous dumping on Android users is sneer-worthy though.
I have got to be honest, the justifications in the full post are half the reason why I’m sneering so hard. it’s possible I’ve got some anger left over from how much it fucking sucks to degoogle
Ugh, I keep waiting for Florisboard or AnySoftKey to get good enough that I can replace google keyboard on my phone, it's very frustrating. I've basically given up on dropping gmail. I think that's all that's left of google for me.
Okay, but apart from YouTube, Google Search, Gmail, YT Studio, Chrome, Google Keep and Nest, what have the Romans ever done for us?
yeah he sure as fuck won’t be bitten by trusting anything Google made after Reader, like say their thermostats that are embedded into his house (which he says don’t count because ???)
also:
when your Google-free life includes all of their major products plus shit you can absolutely do without like Keep and Nest
also also, because I keep fucking looking at it and getting mad:
imagine being this fucking shitty about having bought an iPhone and being above the age of 13
I have a couple of Android devices and even with Android added to my list of Google products, I'm pretty sure I use fewer than Gruber.
it’s very inconvenient but I’ve managed to mostly de-google my couple of Android devices where practical — and there is a noticeable performance benefit to running without google play services, using Firefox, and installing simpler open source odroid apps instead of ad-filled play store ones, at least for the older tablets I recycle into purpose-specific computing devices
gruber, meanwhile, goes out of his way to replace safari with chrome on his Apple devices and then brags about being google-free on his blog
I'm currently in the position of both having gotten as much google shit out of my life as possible, and also needing to track it fairly extensively for a work context (because 95%+ of our userbase is low- and midrange android)
I cannot say "fuck google and all they do" enough times to emphasise how this experience really makes me feel
it absolutely sucks to be forced to use and develop for Google software at work (seriously, what in the fuck is wrong with Google’s docs and APIs?)
if there’s a silver lining, it’s that being forced to be intimately familiar with google’s garbage for work has made me a lot more eager to eliminate as much of it from my personal life as I can
when you’re such a Daring Fireball that you continue to use all of google’s products even when good alternatives are available, but insist you’re making a point by boycotting google