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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It took me literally less than a minute to google and disprove that claim in this 'article':

The Olympic records for the event are 2:06:32 hours for men, set by Samuel Wanjiru in 2008, and 2:23:07 hours for women, set by Tiki Gelana in 2012.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathons_at_the_Olympics#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DIn_2020%2C_both_the_men%27s%2Cby_Tiki_Gelana_in_2012.?wprov=sfla1

This article is not scientific, its simply an opinion piece and should be treated as such. And honestly I don't even think it was a good opinion piece. And why is it hosted on Scientific American?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

And why is it hosted on Scientific American?

Because if you say things like this enough, people believe you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It took me literally less than a minute to google and disprove that claim in this 'article':

The Olympic records for the event are 2:06:32 hours for men, set by Samuel Wanjiru in 2008, and 2:23:07 hours for women, set by Tiki Gelana in 2012.

1.Wikipedia is not a scientific source.

  1. You are, if anything, showing that men are faster than woman. The claim the authors make is about endurance.

I found this study that seems to support their point.

"Men Are More Likely than Women to Slow in the Marathon"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263585668_Men_Are_More_Likely_than_Women_to_Slow_in_the_Marathon

This article is not scientific, its simply an opinion piece and should be treated as such. And honestly I don't even think it was a good opinion piece. And why is it hosted on Scientific American?

I can't read the article so unfortunately don't have the grounds to agree or disagree with you. But I'd be carefull voicing my option like this when your only source is Wikipedia and isn't speaking about the claim you are trying to disprove.

Edit: incase anybody is interested in reading some more real evidence instead of Wikipedia, this study goed deep into mens vs womans endurance and highlights a few problems with research focusing on males as the baseline.

Sex Differences in VO2max and the Impact on Endurance-Exercise Performance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Men are faster than women in a marathon because they can maintain a pace for longer without slowing, that's called endurance.

I can't believe the superior endurance of men can even be up for debate, but clearly no one does enough exercise anymore for the self evident to reveal itself.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Endurance is not speed. If I can go 4 hours at 5 miles per hour before I have to take a break to rest and you can go 2 hours at 10 miles an hour before you have to stop, you'd be much faster than me in a 2 mile race. But that doesn't have anything to do with endurance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why are you changing 2 variables. Endurance is your ability to perform at a certain level for a period of time. Kipchoge has more endurance than me because he can maintain my 800m pace for 26 miles. Speed is literally only a consideration for sprinting. As soon as you're performing past that, it's all endurance. And when we look at all tests of endurance; iron man, ultra marathon, military fitness, triathlon, etc etc. Men come out on top.