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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/17618684

Forced arbitration means any legal disputes you may have with Discord must be resolved through a single third party mediator, who 99% of the time is chosen by, and will rule in favor of, the corporation/Discord. This effectively removes all your legal rights as a consumer, because arbitration decisions are legally binding and non-appealable.

The new ToS goes into effect April 15th, 2024.

YOU CAN OPT OUT OF ARBITRATION. You must email [email protected] BEFORE MAY 15TH (30 days after ToS effective date) with your username stating that you wish to opt out of the arbitration clause. Once May 15th passes you are bound to arbitration with Discord forever.

Opt-out before it's too late.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (5 children)

We need a Federated FOSS Discord alternative built to work with the activity pub protocol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

So... Lemmy? Mastodon?

Although I think Matrix is better suited for chat, just need a client with voice/video support.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

We welcome anyone back to IRC

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No we don't. We need small instances, each with their own specific topics and communities that DO NOT share your information far and wide, like the fediverse does. I don't think the fediverse model is the way forward.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Or… how about we just treat the fediverse like it is a…. public forum…. and use different tools for having more private conversations?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But by not sharing anything, you'd loose users who don't want to sign up for each instance individually. I think it would be a good way to be able to sign up once on one instance and then being able to use all other instances available, but the chats etc of one instance being private to the instance itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

True, and then there's the other side of the coin. Federation exposes you to trolls, nazis, and doxxing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Well I guess if you wanted you could just run it defederated? And you could also build in that the instance/guild owner needs to accept joins, I guess?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Isn't there already one? Thought that was what Revolt was

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is open source though, federation can always come later

That said I'm not sure why they didn't use matrix from the start

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Federation isn't something that can be added later. This has to be part of the protocol from the start.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Anything "can" be added later... as for the effort required, that's a separate matter.

I also wonder why they didn't use Matrix from the start. Right now, with group chats, spaces, threads, and audio/video streaming, bridges, bots, etc. while allowing E2EE, Matrix already seems to be better than Discord.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought Lemmy started without federation?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It started as a Fediverse-based alternative to Reddit, so it was designed with federation in mind from the start.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Has anybody made a matrix app that looks like a discord clone? That sounds easier since the federated rich text chat is already made, the current clients don't really appeal to the discord crowd.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Cinny is the closest to Discord in terms of UI, it even has a feature where you can show subspaces within a space as if they're categories of a Discord server.