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Okay.
Name who is running for the Dem nomination who will perform better than Joe Biden.
Go.
As if any party would ever primary their sitting president.
Is it too late to still be wondering what a Bernie administration would have accomplished?
Running for the nomination is a good way to be exiled from the party.
Not that Democrat primaries are very democratic. They just run 5 slightly less progressive candidates that all agree the popular progressive can't win who all drop out at the 11th hour.
It's not our job to come up with a solution to a problem created by moderate and liberal voters, the DNC, establishment Democrats and Joe Biden himself. We had solid people running in the 2020 primaries. The people who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 are responsible for figuring a way out of this mess. Not us.
Yeah, that's about the response I expected.
Moderates and liberals are free to come up with a solution. They are the majority of the voters after all. What's their solution?
"Vote for Joe Biden considering that he's the best actual candidate running"?
I dunno man, maybe we just don't think "Surrender to fascism because we want to teach the DNC A Lesson(tm) like we TOTALLY did in 2016, 2004, and 2000" is a viable option. Guess we're just not left-wing enough to understand that making sure fascism wins is the REAL left-wing praxis. /s
"well if you can't think of a solution, then 'full speed towards the ravine' is clearly the logical choice"
i much prefer cornel west or jill stein
We did. In 2020. And then Biden proceeded to cater exclusively to moderate and liberals and left progressives and leftists out in the cold. In other words, the only solution moderates and liberals have put forward is "Give us everything, shut the fuck up and vote for who we tell you to."
Respectfully, we reject giving that "solution" a second try. What else have they got?
Fucking lmao.
Yeah, we get it, you crave fascism, you can stop shouting it from the rooftops.
this is bad faith.
Is that why I voted for Biden in the 2020 general election?
How am I supposed to know what was going through your mind in 2020, or, for that matter, what you voted?
All I know is that at this point in time, when fascism is rapidly approaching, your preferred route is "Let it win, because Biden Bad."
Forgive me for not being quite so eager to go the camps, nor being quite so willing to murder minorities and LGBT folk for the sake of feeling smug and sticking it to The Man.
fascism is here and has been for decades, and biden helped to cement it.
If you were so worried about it then why didn't you focus any energy telling moderates and liberals to wake the fuck up?
Why didn’t you?
I did. I still am.
If you allow moderates and liberals to keep creating the narrative that progressives and leftists are responsible for any and all losses despite having near zero input on policy nothing will ever, ever change.
Any fool who sits this election out would be responsible if trump wins, it’s just so-called leftists on lemmy are currently being vocal about it.
Of course most self proclaimed leftists on this site are somehow just fine with dictators as long as they agree that “America bad”, so obviously they’re arguing in bad faith.
Where is the responsibility for Biden himself, the DNC, establishment democrats and the people who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries?
I don't think so. at least, I haven't seen that.