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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Well did I tell you guys, I use Debian stable btw

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Debian is not really the problem, but rather the target, just read the original announcement at https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4:

== Affected Systems ==
Running as part of a debian or RPM package build:
if test -f "$srcdir/debian/rules" || test "x$RPM_ARCH" = "xx86_64";then
...
openssh does not directly use liblzma. However debian and several other
distributions patch openssh to support systemd notification, and libsystemd
does depend on lzma.


Initially starting sshd outside of systemd did not show the slowdown, despite
the backdoor briefly getting invoked. This appears to be part of some
countermeasures to make analysis harder.

Observed requirements for the exploit:
a) TERM environment variable is not set
b) argv[0] needs to be /usr/sbin/sshd
c) LD_DEBUG, LD_PROFILE are not set
d) LANG needs to be set
e) Some debugging environments, like rr, appear to be detected. Plain gdb
   appears to be detected in some situations, but not others

So if you were using Arch, you were unaffected by this vulnerability because

  • the script wouldn't trigger because it uses neither DEB nor RPM packages
  • even if it had triggered, the backdoor only gets activated when the calling binary is /usr/sbin/sshdwhich doesn't happen in Arch because they don't patch OpenSSH to support systemd (which in turn pulls in xz).

This doesn't mean that Arch saved you because it's super secure or anything, but this was a supply chain attack that hit Arch (and Debian Sid, where the backdoor was actually caught because ssh logins took so long…), but it didn't trigger because it wasn't targeted.

Meaning there's no immediate need to be concerned, but you should update ASAP even though the Arch package probably doesn't contain backdoored artifacts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The announcement link leads to a Not Found

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for clarifying. I read through the original announcement but I couldn't fully understand it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

English is not my native language and I am still pretty new to Linux. But it doesn't change the fact that Arch was not compromised and Debian is/was

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, the backdoor only gets enabled when built as an RPM or Deb package, which doesn't apply to Arch Linux, and also requires openSSH to be linked to liblzma, which is also not the case on Arch. So from what we know so far, the Arch packages should not have had the vulnerability. The risk now is whether there are other vulnerabilities or backdoors that haven't been discovered which is why Arch made the update building directly from the git source instead of the known modified source tarball.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

This is a Linux community, we are not here to be fair???