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[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (19 children)

Stop normalizing conservatives like Liz Cheney, her dad was an even bigger war criminal than trump, and the only reason she doesn't like trump is he took control of the party when she was hoping to do the same thing.

There's all types of decent people who say the same few good things she says. And the media is going to fuck around and make people think she's a "sensible conservative".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (7 children)

We need all the help we can get shutting Trump down.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You don't want Liz Cheney's help. This isn't an enemy of my enemy situation, or a lesser of two evils. You'd be trading one bad for a different but equally bad. You want to go back to Iraq and Afghanistan? She'd put us back in Iraq and Afghanistan if she could.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You do realize that it's hard for people to sometimes even begin to consider those parts of the world when their own local governments and potentially their Federal governments might just actively and openly begin putting them in jail?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

I don't understand. Is this a comment on Trump, Cheney, or the average voter?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

well, she can't. she doesn't even hold office anymore.

you're attributing to her a lot more power than she actually has.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm just saying you don't want to trade the swamp king for the swamp princess. That was just an example of the things Liz Cheney believes in.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

who's trading anything? is there some timeline where she's running for president? because she's not in this timeline. in fact, she's not running for any office at all.

this isn't some zero-sum game where liz cheney fighting against Trump in any way diminishes us fighting him. we don't even need to ally ourselves with her for her to fight Trump-- she's doing it all on her own and isn't even asking for anyone's allyship. all that anyone is saying is that her doing that - fighting Trump - is a good and rational act. you, conversely, have yet to present any sort of rational counterargument...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

There is a concerted effort out there by hard core right wing partisans to prevent an alliance between Democratic voters and true-believing Republicans who actually could agree with progressive or socialist policy positions. Liz Cheney isn't in office, she's being smeared here now because the fascist right can't afford any high profile defections for captured voters to find political refuge with.

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