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Sovcit got an ID. (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so I read the back of the card and was curious what "Public Law 92-500 Section 2" said and how it gives these people super powers.

As far as I can tell, it's the Clean Water Act from 1972 and it authorizes federal funds to build sewage plants, and regulations on what you are allowed to dump in the water.

Am I looking at the wrong Public Law? Or is this just a random set of numbers to make it sound official?

Obviously, I didn't expect to find what they think is in there, but I expected at least something that could be misinterpreted as such.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Reading the whole Section, it seems they are leaning on this one phrase:

"SEC. 505. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, any citizen may commence a civil action on his own behalf "(1) against any person (including (i) the United States, and (ii) any other governmental instrumentality or agency to the extent permitted by the eleventh amendment to the Constitution) who is alleged to be in violation of (A) an effluent standard or limitation under this Act or (B) an order issued by the Administrator or a State with respect to such a standard or limitation,

Which is duplicated here in some part here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/33/1365

They're very good at looking at the letter of the law without considering the context or purpose of why it was written. Any number of logical fallacies are used to jump every shark possible.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

under this Act

So they choose not to read these words right here? Because they might have a point if this and everything else after it were left off, but this literally only gives them authority to act in regards to this one specific law about water treatment.

I guess you have to be used to taking things wildly out of context to fall in with the sovcit crowd...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Maybe they figure since politicians can bullshit their way through everything, then SovCits should be able to BS their way through everything too. Can't blame 'em for being sick of government & political BS. But don't get me wrong, I have no intentions of joining the ranks of the sovcit movement anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Is that use of "effluent" referring to sewage!? Please let that be true, it would be amazing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure, jumping the shark is the correct phrase here?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

As long as its in red ink

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Well, sobbies are untreated effluent released into the environment.