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States push ‘fetal personhood’ bills despite outrage at Alabama IVF ruling (www.theguardian.com)

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Lawmakers in more than a dozen states have considered efforts to give legal rights and protections to embryos and fetuses

Lawmakers in more than a dozen states have considered efforts to endow embryos or fetuses with legal rights and protections since the start of the year, and at least three states have advanced such “fetal personhood” legislation since February, when an Alabama supreme court decision ruling that frozen embryos are “extrauterine children” unleashed national outrage.

The Alabama state legislature responded to the repercussions of that ruling – which led several of the state’s in vitro fertilization (IVF) providers to halt their work – by passing a bill to protect providers’ ability to offer that treatment. Yet, just hours after the legislature passed those protections, Republicans in the Iowa statehouse passed a fetal personhood bill that amends state law to criminalize causing the “death of an unborn person”.

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As of 2022, at least 11 states – including Alabama – have what Pregnancy Justice identified as “extremely broad personhood language that could be read to affect all state laws, civil and criminal”, according to a brief by the organization. “Those are the ones that really have the power in their language itself to increase criminalization of pregnant people, to threaten IVF, to threaten forms of contraception and obviously to ban abortion,” Sussman said.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Mandatory organ donation is an awful idea that 100% would be misused and exploited.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, the first few year but the good outweigh the bad very quickly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Huh? What do you think would happen after the first few years to change anything? We have millions of homeless people, and about half of the country don't view those people as human. Now combine that with an entire class of uber-wealthy sociopaths who are willing to do literally anything to save themselves from an illness and/or prolong their own life...

Throw mandatory organ donation into that pot, and baby you got a stew going... What do you think would happen in that scenario? It's actually basic supply and demand. A massive supply of organs belonging to a group who's seen as less than human, and a demand for new organs by the wealthy....

I feel like that's a recipe for something, but I just can't put my finger on what exactly.

Maybe you can help. What do you think is the next logical step in a situation like that? Do you think the wealthy folks suddenly change and decide to accept their mortality and donate their wealth to house those homeless people and everyone lives happily ever after? Wouldn't that be fun?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

If there was actual accountability and no way to cheat, it would be a giant positive for humanity but you go ahead and rant and rave.