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At least 157 people were killed and 270 were injured last year in unintentional shootings by children, according to Everytown, an advocacy group for firearm safety.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So....don't teach children about gun safety?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Toddlers are shooting themselves and others. So maybe education needs to start in the maternity ward?

How about, and I know, it's crazy, but you could try not having guns in residential homes. It's insane, I know, but there's this really weird thing where the rest of the world manages it and their children (so bizarrely) aren't blowing their faces off on a regular basis

Nuts, hey...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Gun control would be nice but...we are talking about in the here and now. Right now....guns are in homes. We are suggesting we should at least do everything we can to teach children those guns are dangerous. You do get that right?

Someone set that building over there on fire! Lets put the fire out!!

NO! WE MUST MAKE STRONGER LAWS AGAINST ARSON!

Thats....basically how this comment chain is going dude.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Talking to one right now.

(You can't set me up like that this is entrapment.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A very small percentage of children.

There are more age groups of children than just toddlers.

I personally support laws requiring gun owners to properly store firearms.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What're are the guns for though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

For me: hunting mostly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I agree, throw the toddlers in the fire.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So...just gonna gloss over everything else. Remove guns all together and, until we can get to that point, we must do absolutely nothing else to at least hopefully prevent these deaths?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Totes what I said, mate, totes. A+

But yeah get rid of the guns.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That would be nice. But right now we are trying to discuss something more realistic, something that could be done now. What do you believe could honestly be done NOW? Mandatory education about firearms or a total ban?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ban and buy back. Education campaign about how crime rates are declining and owning a gun just increases the likelihood that you or someone else in your household gets shot by it, or your lovely trigger happy police force.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm really trying to wrap my mind around this. You are honestly opposed to teaching children that the guns that we currently have are dangerous?

Again... I'm not saying anything against banning guns. I'm just trying to discuss what we can do in the here and now before that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My countrymen and women did not grow up with gun safety classes, but we did have guns. We got rid of the guns. Weeeeee!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

And, again, nobody is saying we shouldn't get rid of the guns. It's just that they are here and right now there is no chance in hell they're going away anytime soon. We are trying to discuss what we can do in the meantime.

Let's come at it from this angle. We have guns in this country, and for now, they are just not going away. What do you believe is the harm in educating children about how dangerous they are?

Or... Maybe another talking point that will help you understand. Judging by your instance I'm guessing you're Australian? You guys are going very hard on education against tobacco. In a way that I truly applaud.

Why haven't you just banned it? Why are you educating children against tobacco when you could just ban it? Are you pro tobacco?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Exactly....i was looking for a clever way to say that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That drives me crazy too. You can look at the numbers, and see that abstinence only simply doesn't work, that kids in abstinence-only schools have sex earlier, have riskier sexual habits, are more likely to catch and spread STIs, and have higher rates of teen pregnancy. From a simple harm reduction standpoint, you'd think people would say, wow, we can actually achieve what we say our goals are by giving kids accurate advice.

I don't get why people want to treat issues like this instead of being pragmatic and looking at the outcomes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Just don't let them know guns exist till they are 18, duh.