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Like surely you must have acquired a clue by now. (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trans are grooming: It is an insult and LITERALLY what the US conservatives are running on. You need to understand this.

Elections: We aren't talking about Russian elections.

Abortions: Read "A defence of abortion" by Judith Jarvis and get back to me. But before you do, stop acting like "you don't have the right to drop a baby onto the floor!" is remotely in the ballpark of an apt comparison. Fuck off with that nonsense too.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We aren't talking about Russian elections

Yeah but you said that doubting the validity of elections is not an opinion. We weren't talking about any country's elections specifically.

stop acting like "you don't have the right to drop a baby onto the floor!" is remotely in the ballpark of an apt comparison

I never claimed it to be but dont you realize that it refutes your claim that one should have "total" control over one's body? This showd that its a matter of where you draw the line. Its not black and white. Can you kill a baby after it was born? Two minutes before? A month before? 6 months before?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This entire thread is clearly about us politics. Furthermore, the idea that you can use THE ENTIRE GLOBE to cherry pick any scenario is absurd and you know it. Stop trying to play that copout game and own the fact that we are discussing American politics.

I never claimed it to be but dont you...

"I never said it was but it totally was!" So no to that as well. Argue in good faith or fuck off.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"I never said it was but it totally was!" So no to that as well.

To make sure you can't interpret this the wrong way:

  • I did not claim that having the right to drop a baby was comparable to having the right to abort
  • However, it is completely irrelevant how comparable they are because this nontheless clearly shows that your absolute claim of "total choice" is false.

To sum it up for you:

  • The dropping example refutes your claim about total control
  • You said it isn't comparable
  • I agreed and pointed out that I never claimed it to be. However, it still refutes your fucking claim. The whole point was for it to be non-controversial (I hope we agree dropping a baby is not your right) so we can both agree that you do not have total control, which you had previously implied.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dude you just did it again. You can't say "I didn't compare them" and then immediately say how they compare. You aren't this stupid, stop acting like it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No I did not and it does not matter whether they compare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yes. You did. Stop pretending you are too dumb to notice something that obvious

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I doesnt matter. Still, I didnt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"these things are not comparable but look how they both share this property!"

Grow the fuck up you child.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Didnt say that.

You're arguing over nothing anyway because it doesnt even matter if they're comparable.

Just answer these two questions: A) Do you have to right to drop your living baby? B) Do you have the right to do what you want (this includes A)?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Give me a quote. I did not.