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The title of this post is disturbing.
Y'all up in here bitchin like you weren't just giggling bout that guillotining billionaires meme
The thing that makes gallows humour gallows humour and not violence is the humour part. There is a huge difference between joking about guillotines and actually using them
Yeah, the difference is actually getting results.
I'm glad you know what I saw and how I reacted and that it's inconsistent. Great job!
Why?
Because the political violence mentioned in the title is murder. The title is "murder works and is good sometimes actually". And the 'sometimes' mentioned here is when a man held a grudge against the Unification Church, couldn't find a chance to kill high ranking members of the church and then decided to kill the former PM because he had connections to it and was easy enough to find.
This is not okay, and very far from "good".
The fact you're being down voted is scary, round here really seem desperate for chaos. The details of this case really aren't anything to be celebrated
I agree. Any dissent to this post being downvoted is kind of a bad thing for humanity. Murder is never something to celebrate. At best it could be "damn that was an evil thing but at least the dictator is dead". But the readiness to accept it as actual good is so alarming
Seriously, I never would've guessed that my most unpopular opinion on lemmy would be "murdering people vaguely connected to your problem because you're angry is bad".
This wasn't an ideological act or whatever, the assassin's mother was brainwashed and financially ruined her family, he was angry because of that (so because the church caused his mother to ruin the family, it's a personal grudge against the church because it affected him), wanted to kill the head of the church, but couldn't, so 20 years later he settled for Abe since he was accessible and supported the church (as the party did before him).
The assassin could've exposed and drew attention to the church and their connections in various ways, instead he shot an old man at the end of his career. I am all for exposing corruption and malpractices, for taking away influence and power from those who have too much, but arbitrary killing is disgusting. Shall we applaud every broken and desperate murderer if the target they could get their hands on was bad enough by some criteria of the day? I hope this is people just trying to be edgy.
It’s unfortunate but in a lot of cases it’s the only thing that will work. Peaceful protest can help when protesting against a group that could be viewed as rational, if not, most people won’t just lie down if the conditions they are protesting don’t improve, and more drastic action becomes one of the few options left.
People here agitating for political violence are acting like this legislation is something like police reform or oil production rates when it's actually just a relatively small thing which won't negatively affect anyone in power and is generally considered popular.
He'd probably have got it into the public dialog with a good pop song too.
Honestly the reason this is interesting news is because it's so uncommon, normally governments and the public shift away from whatever violent radicals support because they don't want to be associated or don't want to appear weak.
It's only popular because of the publicity gained by assassinating the country's longest serving Prime Minister though. I don't think a pop song would have hit the mark.
It absolutely has affected people in power, as there were more than just him linked to the UC church (which his association with was the reason he was the chosen target) and they were removed from their positions. Thise still in power have cut ties.
It is indeed an uncommon response though.
The title of the post could've also been written "sometimes, murder is good". I don't think that's anything to defend just because sometimes violence has resulted in a better situation later.