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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice whataboutism. But fuck it, I'll bite. A genocide has absolutely happened in the US, funny that you didn't hit on it.

Let's play a game. I'm going to call it, "can we agree on some basic facts?"

Stalin, through his policies and leadership, killed millions of Soviet citizens. True or false?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

funny that you didn’t hit on it.

Apologies for the confusing wording above. That’s because I was comparing two similar events to see if you would call it a genocide when the U.S. did it. If you did, I’d question your definition of genocide, but at least accept you’re applying it consistently.

I absolutely agree with you on that basic fact — the US has engaged in countless successful genocides against indigenous peoples.

Stalin, through his policies and leadership, killed millions of Soviet citizens.

False.

First of all, to attribute deaths solely to one individual (even to Hitler) denies anyone else responsible of their free will in doing so.

@[email protected], would you mind holding this lib up to scrutiny since the one on Hexbear didn’t respond?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First of all, to attribute deaths solely to one individual (even to Hitler) denies anyone else responsible of their free will in doing so.

Fair, but this is just kind of a thing we do with language.

If we can't agree that millions of people in the USSR were killed, sent to gulags, and died of famine during Stalin's leadership, then I'm not sure there's anything worth discussing.

Similarly, the article you linked about 7 million US deaths in the great depression doesn't even take itself seriously. It's just trying to discredit counts for deaths in the Holodomor. I suspect you don't think that many people died as a result of the great depression, and, if you're not going to argue in good faith, then again I believe we are at an impasse.

Finally, there is no need for name-calling. While I do not consider "lib" nearly as much an insult as you likely intend it, I would still not categorize myself as such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If we can't agree that millions of people in the USSR were killed, sent to gulags, and died of famine during Stalin's leadership

Can we agree that millions of people in the USA were killed, sent to gulags, and died of famine during FDR's leadership?

I suspect you don't think that many people died as a result of the great depression

And do you think that people died during the Holodomor?