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The most famous forms of Holocaust denial and revisionism tend to focus on Jews, casting doubt, for example, on how many were exterminated in the camps. But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial. Maybe someone should tell J.K. Rowling.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

Perhaps; though that's not a reflection of her -- but as Stewart points out society as a whole and the power we give to racist stereotypical tropes in the first place -- it's a convenient target for those who are already looking to hate on her for other more substantive reasons.

On a separate note, do you not think it's a stretch to lump her in with holocaust deniers this quickly? Isn't it a little too soon to categorize her lack of understanding that the concept of trans or books being burned occurred under nazis versus those who deny millions were murdered in general? If anything, doesn't that water-down the category of Holocaust Deniers?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Doesn't anyone who actively tries to defend literal Nazis by saying "wait wait guys the Nazis weren't THAT bad" https://www.thedailybeast.com/jk-rowling-adds-holocaust-denialism-to-her-transphobia warrent like....an immediate "this fucker is insane" thing? I mean if you're trying to defend someone who is trying to defend WW2 Nazis I think you're in the wrong camp is all

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
  • I think there is a considerable logical leap if not an outright non-sequitur between being misinformed on nazi atrocities / history, and "defending nazis"
  • I don't think we can strawman what Rowling did with, "Nazis weren't THAT bad."
  • I think it's too early to put considerable weight on her intent or beliefs surrounding nazis on this singular tweet.
  • But yes, I do agree people who legitimately defend nazis are insane.
  • Categorically calling it holocaust denial to me diminishes the scale of damage caused by legitimate holocaust deniers.
  • I suspect there are many individuals who already hate Rowling personally for comments related to Trans rights are looking for things to an irrational degree.

That being said I don't think I can add any more to this conversation that I haven't already and so thank you for the discussion and oblige you with the final word.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Doesn't she, as a public figure, whose tweets (xhits?) will reach millions, have more of an onus of responsibility on her to fact check herself? I do agree with you on the fact that she's not ENTIRELLY denying the holocaust and to put her in the same camp as those who do DOES weaken what that means, 100% agreed on that. She's not a holocaust denier, she just denies some specific things that happened in the holocaust. It's still SUPER shitty and SUPER wrong but yes, agreed, she's not going around spouting "it never happened!" shit. I just came into this conversation but I appreciate your input all the same

PS Rowling is a hateful bigot

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