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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Insert name here: John E. Doe

I recall hearing of at least two bills passed that had this... and were not even filled in yet, yeesh:-(.

Someone should really try to poison the well here, and put in a line that says: Insert social security number and a valid credit card number here... Except like the above people probably wouldn't even read that much, yeesh:-(.

Security through ~~obfuscation~~ stupidity! :-) - it can be adaptive under just the right circumstances!:-)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

if we're talking about bills. something like "the assholes that don't want to feed kids agree to fund kids" and stuff.

(pretty sure they call them riders.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This goes beyond riders. "Bought" politicians are SO bought that when lobbyists ask politicians to do stuff, they do it unquestioningly. And I mean: THE WHOLE BILL - not just one sentence within it.

But, you may ask, aren't they also incredibly lazy too? And the answer is yes! So the lobbyists have to do all the work to write out the bills... and then the congressperson simply signs it, easy peasy. "I, insert name here, from state, insert state name here, do solemnly swear that..." - AND I AM NOT EVEN KIDDING, the bill was passed while STILL saying both "insert name here" and also "insert state name here"!!!!!!

So while I am shocked and sickened afresh to hear of plagiarism within academic circles, which I had hoped would be one of the last hold-outs, literal beacons and bastions of Freedom and Truth and all that rizz, politics was the opposite of that and has allowed plagiarism for a LONG time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For the record, LLMs cannot hold a copyright, and material produced by them has no copyright.

using them to generate summaries or introductions isn’t plagiarism, though the lack of copyright is probably significant to the organization.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am not seeing where copyrights came into this discussion, but fwiw the bills I mentioned were passed many years ago, before any LLMs existed.

I don't think congressional bills even need to be copyrighted.

Academic papers do not either, although plagiarism still exists, yet has nothing to do with copyrights.

Summaries are fine for like a Google search, but for a scientific paper using other words without proper attribution is enough to lose not only a job but to have one's degree revoked, even decades after being awarded.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

simply using a LLM to condense an introduction from whatever data you feed it isn’t plagiarism. Now, using unsourced material definitely is.

As for academic or whatever else- all works are copy protected automatically when they’re created. This even includes that horrible crayon drawing you made in kindergarten of your family and dog.

Material generated by LLMs are an exception and automatically in the public domain.