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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you have realistic and normal leftist takes you don't end up going "farther left" to soviet bootlicking. I think tankies are just too closed minded / dumb / lazy / impatient to see the incremental path towards socialism that other leftists seem to focus on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Shit, it doesn't even have to be incremental. "We need to overthrow all bourgeois states NOW" may be a ridiculous take, but it, at least, is a product of idealism, unlike, say, the position of "It was actually really vital that the Soviet Union killed all those kulaks for having 100$ worth of property" that tankies have.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sometimes I wonder how much of it is right wing astroturf to make all progressives look crazy/stupid.

Don't get me wrong, I know Tankies are very real. But just how many of these people actually believe this shit?

Edit: Like I said, I know that tankies are real. My question is how many of them are real.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not really "right wing" astroturfing, as you seem to mean it. there are well publicized social media influence operations run by rogue states, with the apparent goal of steering and polarizing political discourse the US and Europe. and you are falling for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm falling for it? In what way am I falling for it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I took your comment to mean you believe it is actual right-wing (e.g. Republicans, etc) astroturfing, as opposed to state-sponsored trolls. But perhaps you think of those governments as right wing and that's what you meant.