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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Definitely an LLM. Or a goldfish.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

so you've got nothing. just lies. cool.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

that's just you asserting stuff. please find me sources on this if you want to be taken seriously.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

lmao, even if I sent you articles it would still be your job to vet the information regardless. You have names of people and plots. Search them. You want dates, too? 13 March 1943, July 20th 1944.

You've done absolutely nothing but sit here and insult me while providing no argument for your stance, the very definition of Ad Hominem Fallacy and bad faith discussion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yes, those are two assassination attempts on hitler. i've not been able to find anything online that links dornberger to this. why are you concealing your sources, i'd love to read more about this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I've not concealed anything, I've shared far more than you have. Dornberger was implicated in the plot by the Nazis which led to his immediate replacement by Kammler in overseeing the rocketry program. While not officially a part of the anti-nazi resistance, he has been photographed with several members of it including happily shaking hands with Erich Fellgiebel.

If he wasn't a part of the plot, then why did they replace him?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

wait a tick, was he even arrested by the nazis? or are you really basing this on a photograph and the fact that he was replaced at the peenemunde facility around the time of the march assassination attempt?

edit: no, sorry, none of this makes sense.

according to you, the timeline is this:

13 March 1943 - attempt on hitler
March 1944 - dornberger is replaced
20 July 1944 - another attempt on hitler

and you're saying that he was replaced because he was implicated in the plot? and they waited a whole year? or they could see into the future?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Kammler was assigned to oversee the V-2 Program on August 8th 1944.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

ah, sorry, yes.

so the timeline becomes:

13 March 1943 - attempt on hitler
March 1944 - himmler convinced hitler to hand the v2 project over to the SS
20 July 1944 - another attempt on hitler
aug 8 1944 - dornberger is replaced

but it goes on:

December 1944, Dornberger was given complete authority for anti-aircraft rocket development
In February 1945, Dornberger and staff relocated his headquarters from Schwedt-an-der-Oder to Bad Sachsa,

so the project was already slated to be handed over to the SS and then dornberger was implicated in the plot but was not arrested, not imprisoned, not killed, just replaced, but he still got to be an officer and had staff and was in charge of developing rockets in some other project.

okay. help me make it make sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

so your evidence is that he at least kinda knew some of the july 20 plotters and that he was replaced during the general SS takeover of everything after the plot.

tell me, was goring also implicated in the plot then? because:

In March 1945, Hitler stripped Göring of his powers over aircraft support, maintenance and supply, and transferred these duties to Kammler.

why isnt he listed among the july 20 plotters on any list then? why isnt goring?

also, once again, even if he was in on the plot, that doesnt mean he wasnt a fascist.