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linkhidalgogato
joined 2 years ago
are they really accidents if they are predictable
idk why eating it makes it better, but it does, and most people would agree with that. Morality and feelings arent some kind of objective truth u can just find and explain in exact detail. Maybe pleasure derived from eating is more valid because deriving pleasure from just killing something makes it clear that u are crazy and a danger to society, maybe its not that eating it makes it better but that doing it for no reason makes it worse, after all people kill rats and other pests all the time without eating them for the pleasure of not having them around and no one seems to mind.
And u keep saying things like "slaughter of sentient life" (which is a funny way of saying farming but whatever) as if thats somehow wrong but u have never said why it would be wrong.
reality is that the disproportionate consumption of the rich far outweighs the consumption of the working people but even putting aside the easy gains of no more private jets and the like, there are things we do and buy that dont even make us happy and are terrible for the planet and often for our bodies like cars. The real question is why people would buy tons of useless garbage they dont want nor need and ultimately dont even use in a society were people arent flooded with propaganda to buy said shit all the time and in a society were ur ability to consume isnt the only measure of a persons worth. And that not even saying anything about repeatability and planned obsolescence.
"how dare u criticize slavery when u eat the food the master gives u sleep in the barracks the master owns and works the masters fields u have no legs to stand on"
this is... ok. But lets be real here what even is "black power" in this context and why is being compared to "white power" because we know what that is, its white supremacy its racism and its oppression and its a tool that the ruling class controls and has used plenty and which white people have benefited from happily, but "black supremacy" isnt a thing besides a few powerless nutters and even if it was it would have no institutional or state power behind it like white supremacy. No, in reality "black power" is the power to resists oppression and even to resist capitalism so why is it being compared to "white power" why is it being put down?
i see the argument u are trying to make and its nonsense, almost everyone makes a distinction between killing something just for the fun of it and killing something to eat it, for 99.9999% of people those are completely different actions.
yeah thats why we read the works of other theorists that have lived since him and have taken his ideas an updated them and applied them to new circumstances at every moment since he wrote his books, for fucks sakes most communist dont even call themselves Marxists most of us call ourselves Marxists Leninist. Also if u actually read anything Marks wrote u would realize that while specifics are almost all outdated the ideas themselves and methods of analyzing and understanding things hold up just fine.
u keep saying there is no argument against veganism but reality is that there doesnt need to be one because there is also no argument FOR veganism, there is nothing immoral about eating meat, and u have not at any point presented an argument that would even suggest it is wrong, u just keep saying it is.
honestly i got sentience and sapience confused English isnt my first language, anyways point is it really doesnt matter that they feel pain that in no way affects this, and u know that it doesnt because if farm animals were first sedated before being killed it would not make u ok with it so stop being disingenuous.
40 years? my guy u are talking about a genocidal slave sate that was created in order to preserve slavery and commit more genocides a country where for much of its existence only white men with land could vote a country were when those blatant forms of discrimination became untenable did everything it could to ensure that only those people had any impact on politics. amerikkka was never a democracy
if u make shitty street designs, give driving licenses to people who shouldnt even operate a tricycle let alone a 2+ ton metal vehicle, let such people drive at reckless speed, sdont enforce traffic laws, and then put a concrete planter in the middle of the street that isnt an accident.