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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

What you said is a complete mischaracterisation of Enver Hoxha and Hoxhaism.

The People's Republic of China has taken an openly Anti-Marxist path, selling out its people to Western Megacorporations, and adopting bourgeois-nationalism as part of its ideology.

Enver Hoxha never claimed to be the only "true" Marxist, nor do Hoxhaists claim that the People's Socialist Republic of Albania was the only true Socialist State.

Saying that:

  • Marxism is unchanging and rigid and no one can ever do anything different based on their country’s material conditions and circumstances. If a country ever makes mistakes, does anything I personal disagree with, it is an evil revisionist capitalist hellscape.*

Is false, considering that Hoxhaists fundimetally oppose the imperialism of NATO and uphold national self-determination.

And lastly claiming that:

The US and the west are evil, but I utilize their information channels for all of my opinions of other countries, or I base all my opinions on purist infighting from the 1970s and won’t ever accept that there may be alternate paths to the same goal. You are stupid and wrong for having a different opinion than me, revisionist pig.

Is utterly false. Everything I said is based on empirical information, not what the State Department said. You can use information, not based off Western-sources, to prove the large existance of billionaires in the PRC government and the Communist Party of China. You can prove that the SOEs only make up less than 25% of the economy, and so on. I am simply adhering to Revolutionary defeatism.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

This is nothing more than Dengist Revisionist propaganda, and a total detachment from Marxism.

  1. Saying things such as "they execute corrupt billionaires" is false; as in your haste to defend Capitalist-states like China, who have the largest amont of billionaries than any other country, you have forgotten to compute one simple thing - WHY DOES CHINA HAVE BILLIONAIRES IN THE FIRST PLACE?! Even if this were to be true, they only rarely execute bourgeois for major crimes, extreme nepotism, corruption, and such, not out of any Anti-capitalist ideology. If they were truly Socialist, these billionaires would not exist in the first place.

Furthermore, The PRC has shown an extreme amont of amiability to its bourgeoisie, they have greatly removed labour rights, and given many favours to its bourgeoisie, not anything near hostility.

  1. You fail to understand that SOEs only make up less than 25% of the PRC's total economy, nor are these SOEs Socialist in regards to their economic relations with their workers.

In fact, you have already partially proven my point: "These enterprises exist as an arm of the state and function within the global capitalist ideological context". In other words, these SOEs have been turned into a form of Capitalist-style ownership in order for them to be able to contend with Western corporations.

These SOEs fuction identically to private ownership, they both are owned by a bourgeois class, they both exploit their workers' labour value, and they both care about profits. Therefore, even these SOEs create Capitalist exploitation.

  1. What achievments? Workers cannot even get basic healthcare (at least not outside the major cities), China has one of the worst labour conditions, and its Capitalist-ruling class makes unthinkable profits at the same time.

Lastly on this point, how is poverty reduction Socialism by itself? Poverty reduction could sometimes happen under Capitalism, do we call that Socialism?

  1. The private education sector is still fuctional, from what I can tell. Could you present proof? And furthermore, how is that to itself Socialism?
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Completely false. The economy of the People's Republic of China is not a planned economy - the vast majority of its economy is under the control of private corporations, and is not subject to government planning. Capitalism is not "locked in a cage" in China, for Capitalism is locking China in a cage, via constant labour abuses, extremely poor working conditions, plutocratic rule, ect. Furthermore, the "Communist" Party of China has no plans to recreate a planned economy, nor Socialism. In short, China is undergoing an NEP (state-capitalism) without end.