Draconic_NEO

Make them press the button instead 😈

I think criticism of matrix as a platform and protocol is valid and can help build a better decentralized ecosystem. We need to address the flaws in order to make it better.

I still think Matrix is probably the best way moving forward since its only real alternative is XMPP, which yeah, better than nothing but not great. Also relying on and ultimately hyping centralized solutions is relying on one guy to not love money more than "the dream", and his reputation, which always ends up happening at some point in the end (every one of us are susceptible to it, just keep adding 0s). FYI whatsapp used to be just like signal, E2EE zero knowledge, over-hyped privacy messaging app, then they sold it to Facebook who backdoored it and made that not true anymore.

Pushing for a service that ultimately can and very likely will have the same fate, especially when this app is overhyped too just feels irresponsible at least in my opinion, especially since centralized messengers are the hardest to break away from.

I’m impartial about both platforms, and the way I see it is that Signal would be great if it was decentralized, and Matrix would be great if it used a different type of protocol, even though Matrix does use a fork of a protocol that Signal uses.

I think if signal were decentralized it would be awesome and possibly even better than signal in some ways, I also wouldn't really have any issues with it being given as an alternative to Matrix or XMPP, since it wouldn't have the same deep issues it has now. Though it isn't and their developers' attitude towards decentralization shows that it probably won't be (someone could fork the open source parts and make it so but it wouldn't be signal, that would be something else).

I’m not sure what the difference of the protocols Matrix and signal use so I have to look into that in my own time to really find out why one is better than the other like soatok claims haha

I'm not really sure either, I've heard that they use similar protocols underneath but I've also heard from others that they are drastically different. So hard to say.

That is true, there are definitely much worse messaging platforms out there.

I'm mainly calling out signal because in terms of private messaging platforms they are one of the only ones yes but they are also pretty bad due to their centralized dependence (and the fact that they insist on staying centralized) the fact that they are insanely and (most likely) artificially overhyped doesn't help at all, and if people want to choose a better one they should choose one that isn't going to end up having the same problems.

Obviously many signal fanboys would argue that it just wouldn't happen, that signal could never enshittify but they fail to understand that centralized services can be fundamentally restructured in ways much harder than if not impossible with decentralized ones. Also the fact that companies, even non-profits can be influenced by money and even go public. Overhyped centralized bullshit is not the solution, and it never has been.

Yeah I know this is a hot take but I don't really like signal much either, but for me it's mainly because it is a centralized protocol and they attempt to maintain exclusivity over it (Moxie used to go after third party clients because of this).

That's why I feel matrix is a way better alternative. It still has the option of being secure with the E2E encryption and so long as you save your keys you can still retrieve older messages on other devices. It also has the ability to create public chats, same as Telegram, but with the addition of Spaces, which can group connected chats together (almost like a discord server, except you can also join each room individually).

Also matrix doesn't require a phone number to sign up so it's significantly better than Signal in that regard because signing up with email is much more convenient, and probably more secure than phone number sign-up since you can simply use temporary email services.

Lax moderation policies allowing for many groups to do what they want without getting banned (for a while anyway).

@[email protected] @[email protected] Mentioning because this is relevant to our instances since we're currently using Telegram here, we may want to consider alternatives like Matrix, or even just a simple RSS Feed for updates.

Whatever we choose it probably would be best to eventually move on from Telegram, even if not immediately, as user experience on Telegram will likely continue to get worse in the future.

I don't really use it either, but I thought it would be relevant to post here since the pawb.social network uses it to communicate outages, so it might be best for us to try to move away from that to something else, maybe something a bit more open.

Awesome. You did an amazing job.

Well us dergs have very long life-spans naturally and the problem with this idea of everlasting life or even very long life that no one ever really thinks about is that the probabilities that misfortune will befall you don't go away or even really go down once you have it. That means that even though it seems unlikely to be crushed by an air-conditioner falling out of a window, or fall down the stairs, or choke to death on your food, the probability of these things happening when given enough time approaches 100%, even the very unlikely ones.

So while you might think something like this is awesome unless it also grants you the invulnerability to survive the catastrophes you will encounter in the future or cancels out their probability, it's basically useless, because those will get you likely in a comparable amount of time as old age would.

Mostly charging up their battery cells, those batteries are usually very high capacity.

Yeah they are very power hungry, usually 24 killowatts is what they'll suck down at max on AC power at least if it's available (it isn't always), if they can't get up to that they'll still charge at lower power but it just takes much longer.

Pretty sure most protos require much more juice than is supplied by regular USB A or even USB C with power delivery.