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The study, conducted by Dr Demid Getik, explores how mental health is related to income make-up within couples by examining the link between annual income rises for women and the number of clinical mental health diagnoses over a set period of time.

The study finds that as more women take on the breadwinner role in the household, the number of mental health related incidences also increases.

As wives begin earning more than their husbands, the probability of receiving a mental health diagnosis increases by as much as 8% for all those observed in the study, but by as much as 11% for the men.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've experienced a man in my life being really fucking salty and super dickish about my successful career. It isn't a husband or SO, but my stepfather. The man who, until recently, has been a great father figure.

I can't talk about work around him without his mood immediately souring. Idk if he's jealous that I have some disposable income and that I am making a little less than he is and I'm only 3 years into my career as opposed to his 25, but it's really discouraging.

Finances are very tight for him and my mother and it's almost entirely his fault because he is terrible with money. It's really sad to see him act this way. According to my mom, he has bitched to my grandma (his mom) about me taking up horseback riding and doing things with my new friends because it can be expensive. My grandma yelled at him over it and said that me doing new things and socializing is very good and she supports it. Idk why he thinks my finances are his business either. Ugh. The man is so frustrating.

Sorry for ranting. Guess I really needed to get all that out lol.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

This is really sad, tbh.

I personally would be freaking stoked. Would love to be a stay at home hubs, too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

oh yeah but I would not want that much pressure on my wife. Would want to make enough to at least get us by in a pinch.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why is there an increase in mental health diagnoses recently?

Looks around at the state of the world. Tyranny on the rise; human right being violated across the globe; climate crisis set to boil humanity alive; tech companies funding dictators.

My hypothesis is that it is the fault of women.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

It certainly doesn't help that men and women are more adversarial than they have ever been. The cause may be just, but at the end of the day everyone is just lonely and miserable, and afraid of the other.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember, this is diagnoses. My guess is that its a "owning a horse make you healthier" thing again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

This has to depend on the guy. My ex, he always made less $ than me because I went to college after having kids and got a better job, then asked him if he wanted to do the same he said no, and we made enough as long as we both worked, it wasn't anything we really thought about, only about hours worked by each of us. Now when he was unemployed it all went to hell, but not as long as he worked at all. I valued his work, not the wage.

My husband, he wants to make more than me but sees it as a challenge, he wants me to make more money, because it would motivate him to make more money, he just wants us to have more money. He is very happy for me to succeed, and I'm valued for contributions at home and making money, and (critically important) he does as much as me around the house, and our busy work seasons aren't at the same time so we are able to support each other during those months. I do think it's a sexist thing (he does too but still feels it) but don't actually care, it works fine for us in practice.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Men that are upset that their wives out-earn them are missing the point of marriage. The point of marriage isn't him vs her, its the two of you together against the world. If she is earning more than him, then that benefits him too because he's part of the marriage.

I'm constantly astonished when I hear of men that are upset by their wives out-earning them. Some of these men have even sabotaged their wife's work or changed the circumstances at home preventing her from continuing in the job where she out-earns him. My only hope for these women is they realize their husband's love is conditional on him being dominant over her, and that she seeks out a better future where she can be her best self.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yup I remember hearing this for the first time talking to a co-worker. He would never date anyone making more than him in $. I was so confused cause I'm happy my wife makes more $ than me. Which is the reason I went back to school cause I wanted to help with contribute more. I see my wife as an equal and nothing less. We do the same amount of work around the house and cook and all that. Why marry if you do not see your partner as an equal being.

My other coworkers were confused as well. Guy had weird values when it came to women.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i want my wife to earn more than me; she sure deserves it. she has a higher education and a job that actually matters to humanity. i have a desk job that makes computers go beep. its absurd how low her pay is :(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, you and me have the same life it seems. My wife went to college, has her masters and 1 year shy of getting her PHD. and is a special education teacher making nothing crazy. I have no school and I am an IT admin and recently moved to networking and make only slightly more. She thinks I will be someone who cares that she makes more than me, and I say why? Why would I want us to have a harder time than we already have now? Please make more, make a lot more if you can! We only benefit more with peace of mind, I can care less who it comes from.

Some decent news is they work in steps so every year they are guaranteed a raise and she's around step 15 of 20 which after looking at the steps the first 13 are awful and now the next 5 years are huge. Like so big that each year is basically the equivalent of the past 13 combined. So, considering how stagnant I've been, she will pass me by a decent amount within the next 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm in the same boat. I happen to earn more, but not really through my own education/merit/worth to society - just by virtue of the industry I work in and that I can also make computers go beep sometimes.

For a while, my wife did earn more than me, and that was fine. My job was easier, so I did more housework and took some of the stress off her.

Imo it's wild to be upset that you are earning more as a team just because the person earning the most on the team is a woman. Patriarchy is a hell of a drug

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Specifically on women's mental health deteriorating in this situation, often this can occur when she's still expected to pick up the majority (or all) of domestic labor in addition to her well-paying job. Women are still largely expected to "do it all" by not only their partners but by society. If you're not a perfect businesswoman, mother, and domestic servant all in one all the time, well you're failing your spouse, your children, your boss, your identity as a woman, etc. Women don't just need their male partners to step up for them in labor alone, but also to reevaluate their social role that they are propagating through their (in)actions. What are you teaching your kid if mom is the only one who cooks dinner? Or cleans regularly without reminders? Or keeps track of doctor's visits, field trips, etc?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Men who are uncomfortable with their wives earning more money are also probably more prone to feeling some stigma around addressing their own mental health issues

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