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Germany has become the ninth country in the world to legalize cannabis. The new law allows individuals to grow up to three cannabis plants for personal consumption and to possess up to 25 grams of the drug. Cannabis clubs will also be allowed to grow and sell cannabis to their members. The law is expected to come into effect in April 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I fail to understand how you can only possess up to 50 g of weed at home. You're allowed to have three plants and one plant produces normally over 100 g. What.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Makes no sense at all! I just pulled 10 oz from a single plant in a 60x120cm cabinet. Guess you'll have to smoke & eat the entire plant immediately!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

I had to look it up: Canada, Mexico, Thailand, Uruguay, South Africa, Georgia, Luxembourg, Malta, and now Germany. It's legal in a little over half of the US including territories.

Did Germany change their plan though? Originally they were just going to open up 3 cannabis shops in Berlin as a test, now it seems they're just going with full legalization across the country as of April. Anyone have more insight into the rollout?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Legal to use but the coffee shop business might be some gray territory if I remember right

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Legal to sell and have, but not legal to grow in large quantities.

How do shops get their inventory? That's the gray area.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Thailand is in the middle of banning it as they elected a conservative government not long after legalising it.

Also for recreational use it’s legal in one of eight states/territories in Australia. Medicinal in every state but that’s not really the same even if it’s dead easy to get.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

They did note elect that government.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (4 children)

To comply with EU law, cannabis won't be sold commercially. Instead, people can form cannabis clubs where they grow it for their own use. Only members can get cannabis at such a club. Alternatively, you can grow it at home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There are already EU countries that sell cannabis commercially

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I really like this. Yes, it should be everyone's choice to consume it or not. But there really shouldn't be commercial incentives to get people addicted and to get rich from their addiction.

Imgine the same rules applying to alcohol and tobacco... (yes you can absolutely grow tobacco in Germany).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That makes a lot of sense as a law, actually. Most of the problems that have arisen from state legalization in the US has been from people trying to jump on the money train by starting huge questionable grow sites in remote areas (such as where I live). And, of course, getting some of the organized crime elements involved because there's money to be made. I'm sure some will skirt this law but promoting it to be small scale, personal consumption only is pretty based.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Germany doing it will likely set precedent in all of northern Europe. My prediction is Denmark will follow in 2 year time, Norway in 3-4 years and Sweden likely last at 5 years, even though I think we consume more of it per capita... Swedish stance on drug use has been extremely conservative for many, many decades by now and is super rooted in the common Psyche, which is why so many die of overdoses and kill themselves if it comes out they use. The stigma is heavy.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

I honestly don't believe Sweden will come around that quickly. We're way too deep into prohibition to swing over like that. A majority of people do really hate drugs. This being said I absolutely think it will happen within a decade unless something goes wrong elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I also don't see it happening in 5 years, the government knows its policy has caused Sweden to have the highest drug related death rate but they just double down on prohibition.

Anyway, if it's not legalised in the next 3-4 years, I'm moving to Spain, I like who I am when I smoke, I like the control I have over my anxiety and the boos of life and energy I get.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do many Swedish people treat alcohol like this or only the illegal stuff?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This dude was the root of this war on drugs, here in Sweden and the US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Bejerot

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Alcohol is fine. Drugs being bad was just bashed into our cultural collective head so hard that it's difficult to get out of. A politician cannot speak of decriminalisation without being thrown out of every one of the established parties.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully we in the Netherlands will finally legalize it as well instead of it being a gray area. Although that would require us to give up on beating Belgium's record of not forming a government.

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