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Having tried all three, its a stark difference in how much more social Lemmy is comparatively. Its not even close. Almost all posts I've encountered on lemmy have interaction; whereas, more often than not, posts on the other two platforms have no interaction. Wonder what the driving factor is behind this difference?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Concur. Love how lemmings bundle up and socialize!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

mastodon is like an oasis in a sea of noise.

Concentrate on the signal, not the noise.

Build relationships with people you care about.

The problem with mastodon might turn out to be having a heart lacking in empathy. Need to be able to care enough to want to be associated with someone you admire.

We live amongst rock stars. How can anyone completely miss that?! The problem is neither the platform nor the rock stars.

Don't need a sea of people. Need 10 or 5 or 3. As long as they are rock stars. I count my blessings daily.

It's clearly how approach to using mastodon. Small tweak to your mindset and you can get alot out of the platform.

Dial up a super hero and tell them they are awesome.

Go to pypi

Find packages you like and their maintainers.

Hook up with them and tell them they are awesome, but found a few things that doesn't make sense in the docs. Whatever the approach. You are in!

Do it now.

It'll take all of 5 mins.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why are all your comments like poetry? I love that lmao

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Well Mastadon is good for screaming into the void and hope someone shouts back. Lemmy is kind of like a forum type community where you already know someone is going to like your topic if it's in the right sub.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I left reddit for lemmy on the big migration but I though it wouldn't last. Here I am years after. I enjoy lemmy a lot more than I ever did Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t know but that image looks sick

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy is discussion focused, the bulk of content is the comments guided by posts. Mastadon/nostr are about microblogging, the posts are the focus of content, not the comments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

you are missing out. Which is much worse than just being wrong.

The focus of mastodon is on the people, not the comments.

Deeply care about the other person and then you'll be interacting with someone you admire

The comments are topics they find interesting and want to share.

With coders, when they post something, is usually mostly signal.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Microblog.... I just don't care about other people that much. Specific topics are more engaging and interesting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Then to get something out the opportunities the universe is gifting you, all you have to do is turn on that empathy switch and adjust the level up to max.

The issue is all in your head.

You are surrounded by giants, but you don't notice or care.

Force yourself to care.

Find someone tomorrow and magically decide they are now the most important person in your universe moving forward. And you want to keep in touch with them regularly. And you find what they are up to thrilling.

Then type in this url

github.com

This will be enough to fill your entire lifetime and then some.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry, what?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i care about other people, specifically coders. They are my rock stars. And that's who i want to keep in touch with.

On mastodon, if have something up your sleeve others want to have access to you. I get access to certified, cuz whats that, geniuses. They have the repos, source code, and unittests to prove it!

On lemmy, not so much.

Or riddle me this, how to build relationships on lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

You don't. I head back to Reddit personals for that.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Has anyone else never even heard of nostr

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

nostr is yet another twitter, but for "anti censorship" folk, such as cryptobros and "freeze peach absolutists". Also has some crypto integration that lets it have shops and even a tiktok video thingy.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, and its activitypub bridge Mostr.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Never heard of Mostr either icl

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I do have and use Mastodon. But more and more I keep thinking that traditional blogs + rss are a better fit for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What's the diff? I have a web site that functions like a traditional blog, offers RSS, but it's an ActivityPub application that participates in the Fediverse. Doesn't that describe every Mastodon-alike?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

The thing about Mastodon is that you have to really heavily curate.

On Forum Blogs, like here, if you go to All, you will see articles, questions, images, and communities.

On Micro Blogs, like Mastodon, if you go to all you will see articles, but the rest will mostly be international thoughts of the day, some of which may be questions, non-sequitors, and images.

Not so much the communities, by default.

That doesn't mean that Mastodon/the like can't, you just have to curate it a bit more. I followed #Bloomscrolling and it brings tons of nature in my feed, it's lovely. But if you follow like, @GamingFeed it's just reposted content that looks for keywords -- my Helldivers 2 posts were being promoted but also random articles and posts from others. Somewhat useful for finding articles, but hollow because it's just a bot I'm certain.

I also find that while there are communities on mastodon, they're pretty niche so you end up limited to roughly the same things here, tech either hardware or software, gaming or relatives like figures, nature, or politics (though I've found Mastodon is fairly less political on a default account. Wasn't using it much though so I may have missed it entirely).

Meanwhile on Lemmy and the like, you pretty much just get shown communities. We all know ich_el or whatever that German meme one is, we all have passed by 196, that sort of thing doesn't appear on Mastodon so much.

That said, I do see mastodon accounts commenting on posts on Lemmy, so it's also possible to mix them. I will say, generally the mastodon comments do not go into as much thoughtful detail in response on these articles, but that could very well be an instance limitation (some have 40k characters, some have 500-2000).

So there are some fairly large differences and while they can technically accomplish the same thing, there can a bit of a cultural difference between the two formats. And as you probably know, default instances also can change this experience on both -- Solarpunk.moe is awesome and well moderated and is focused on solarpunk, mastodon.social is pretty large and chaotic. Lemmy is the same way, of course, slrpnk.net is fairly small compared to the major instances and the home feed reflects that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Longer posts. More control over formating. Easier to post more types of media.

And maybe it's less of a "social" media, and more of a "personal" project.

Maybe it's 90s nostalgia talking, but I miss those cool personal webpages.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Mastodon & others are microblogging (aka shitposting) platforms, while lemmy lets you ask questions in posts that will persist (not get flooded under a megaton of shitpost, hentai) and get answers.

On mastodon what's important is who you are (who you know, who you can interact with), on lemmy your post's content is more important.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

On Mastodon, follow and interact with people you admire, not content.

Go to pypi look for packages you admire, find their maintainers, and get chatting with them. Coders make themselves available on mastodon. Not lemmy. Not twitter. Email is passe.

Do a survey. Look up 20 random packages you admire on pypi. What contact info do they provide? These packages must be actively maintained. Otherwise understand if dinosaurs in the past communicated thru mostly hand gestures and grunting.

Published coders are the richest resource of talent in the history of mankind.

Lemmy ... asking questions?! Is that it?

There is more to interacting and collaboration than hit and run knowledge sharing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I still use Mastodon β€” as a place to dump intrusive thoughts more than anything β€” but there is this huge tension between people who want to chat with randoms, people who only want to chat with friends, and people who want to use it purely as a broadcast medium. The protocol/convention doesn't really allow for managing this issue, which is a shame, but I have come to the conclusion that microblogging is just kind of cursed as a medium. It's fundamentally all about building a personal brand, and if you have no social capital you are shit out of luck. And if you have too much, well, enter the reply guys.

Lemmy/the Reddit model on the other hand strikes a good balance between anonymity and being able to vet odd characters. Different people want different things ofc, and that's fine, but I find I have more fruitful conversations here than on Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Name three people on Mastodon you follow and why do you admire them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

@[email protected]

Author. Three time Hugo Award winner.

@[email protected]

Invented Markdown

@[email protected]

You already know who this guy is. As far as I can tell he's either a leftist or pretty damn close to being one, and I would bet money on him not being a horrible person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wondering if it's possible to put this observation into number...

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hey, just to drive some more social interaction, what’s your favorite color? Mine’s a mix of aqua and turquoise.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Hey, I don't come into your house and insult you by calling you social media! /s

I think, much like HN or early web forums, we're below the population level where personal attacks get unmanageable. On Reddit voicing a dissenting opinion would always get you dog piled and that makes people defensive and boring as shit.

People here are generally (some exceptions being pro life/choice which is a deeply toxic topic at this point and Gaza which has emotions extremely high) arguing in good faith and even if they're rough initially a lot of times I've appreciated back and forth threads since, even if there's still a disagreement, most people will genuinely work to remove stupid misunderstandings and try and understand who they're talking to.

Additionally, the mods on most communities are awesome and focus specifically on removing things like personal attacks without getting heavy handed in interventions.

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