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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can't tell if the Bluesky team is bad at business or planning some sort of eventual rug pull. They're certainly a for-profit corporation without any evident way to generate profit, and their words and theoretical design all sound like they're not easily compatible with profit, but multiple profit-focused entities have given them a lot of money for something that, if implemented as envisioned, will not make them any richer.

My only guess is some form of Embrace-Extend-Extinguish where the core server is better than the rest of the network, but the network exists to assuage fears about another social network implosion or protect from potential antitrust issues while not being a real threat, but it feels like a complicated way to make Twitter 2.0 and get rich.

As long as there's a profit motive involved, enshittification seems like the expected conclusion. We could just be at step one. From Doctorow's description of the enshittification cycle:

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

they're a public benefit llc not a for profit corporation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Public benefit companies are for-profit, they just can't be sued for not maximizing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

What happens when the LLC runs out of money to run / administrate the server?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

bluesky should abandon atproto and use activitypub

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

but why atproto solved several things activitypub doesn't do (and refused to implement).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Like what? What did it solve that activitypub refused to?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

And yet, bsky still lacks basic functionality that Masto had years ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am using another great fediverse Twitter clone called Catodon.social which has a MUCH nicer UI than either Mastodon or Bluesky. I want all corners of the fediverse to do well. It's the future of social media I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Phanpy.social is a great frontend for Mastodon that looks even better on a phone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nostr vs Mastodon on Privacy & Autonomy:

  • Relay/instance admins can choose which content goes through their relay on either platform
  • On nostr, your DMs are encrypted. In Mastodon, the admin of the sender and receiver can read them, as can anybody else who breaks into their server
  • On nostr, a relay admin can control what goes through their relay, but they can't stop you from following/DMing/being followed by whoever you want since you are typically connected to multiple relays at once. As long as one relay allows it, signal flows. Nostr provides the best of both worlds: moderated "public squares" according to your moderation preferences, autonomy to follow/dm/be followed by anybody you want (assuming that individual user hasn't blocked you).
  • On mastodon, your identity is tied to your instance. If your instance goes down, you lose your follow/followee list, DMs, etc. On Nostr, it's not, so this doesn't happen. Mastodon provides some functionality to migrate identity between instances but it's clunky and generally requires to have some form of advanced notice.
  • Both have all the same functions as twitter: tweet, reply, re-tweet, DM, like, etc.

Why I think nostr will win https://lemmy.ml/post/11570081

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Nostr might be more private and autonomous, but it's full of crypto shams.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Bluesky's official app sucks ass, that's already enough of a reason for me to not use it for the time being. It really is terrible, shitty web view banking app level of terribleness and speed

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

There's no native iPad mode. 😩

Thankfully there is an app that's iPad native named, uh, Skeets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

it looks exactly like the Twitter app

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's the Twitter app if it was made by backend people

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

no I have seen apps like that and this is not that it's something else

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