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Data from thousands of EVs shows the average daily driving distance is a small percentage of the EPA range of most EVs.

For years, range anxiety has been a major barrier to wider EV adoption in the U.S. It's a common fear: imagine being in the middle of nowhere, with 5% juice remaining in your battery, and nowhere to charge. A nightmare nobody ever wants to experience, right? But a new study proves that in the real world, that's a highly improbable scenario.

After analyzing information from 18,000 EVs across all 50 U.S. states, battery health and data start-up Recurrent found something we sort of knew but took for granted. The average distance Americans cover daily constitutes only a small percentage of what EVs are capable of covering thanks to modern-day battery and powertrain systems.

The study revealed that depending on the state, the average daily driving distance for EVs was between 20 and 45 miles, consuming only 8 to 16% of a battery’s EPA-rated range. Most EVs on sale today in the U.S. offer around 250 miles of range, and many models are capable of covering over 300 miles.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I drive every month over 1100km one way and then few days later back home. It's almost impossible to do it with EV

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

We have a PHEV with a paltry 26 mile range for a family of 5 but that still means we go over 700 miles on a tank before filling because my wife works 5 miles from where we live. See how we aren’t the same?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

But that makes you:

1.) not an average motorist, in no country 2.) not really the target group for current EVs

There will never be a perfect solution for everyone, but that doesn't mean that most people couldn't just switch to an EV without any problems at all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The problem is that something that works for me 90% of the time ends up completely fucking me the other 10%. That might be manageable, but the thing is that the easiest way to manage it is to just get a vehicle with more range.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

But that cross-country trip I make every few years! Am I supposed to like borrow a regular car or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I went with a plug-in hybrid and it feels like the optimal solution at this point in time. I get enough electric range to cover my commute and local driving (i.e. maybe 90%+ of my driving) and gas for when I need more range. I barely burn gasoline and the battery is on the smaller end so it didn't take so many resources to manufacture. The downside is having the complexity of both IC and EV drivetrains within the same vehicle, but so far it's been pretty low maintenance (about 6 years so far).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Another happy PHEV driver here. It’s really the best of both worlds as the charging infrastructure is built out and vehicle costs come down. Wife went 700 miles last fill up because she travels to the country once a week. If we stayed in the city we’d be well over 1000 miles before filling.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

No, I'm pretty sure me and most everyone else have a pretty firm grasp on how far we need to go regularly, dude bros in jacked up F350s that live in the suburbs notwithstanding..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

OP: Your car should only get you to work and back because what else are you good for?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

These studies come from the wrong angle to convince anyone. Average isn't what people are concerned about. It's getting to grandma's house, who lives 150 miles away.

However, that isn't insurmountable, either. 250 mi range with some charging infrastructure upgrades can cover almost all of North America just fine. Yes, even when it gets cold. Plenty of EVs on the market can do this.

Get more charge stations out there, and tell the industry to stop making only $45k base price SUVs for EVs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Bingo. We bought a PHEV with a smaller 26 mile battery because 1) that’s more than enough for our daily range, 2) when we need to travel or do a lot of errands in a day we have the range to do it, and 3) it’s much cheaper than a full EV of the same size (7-8 person vehicle).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The less range the longer the charge times too, although some of the newer lower power density chemistries like the sodium ones seem to charge a bit faster.

Those 10-80% charge times don't magically get better if the battery gets smaller they stay roughly the same.

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