As a European. WTF are overdraft fees?
this post was submitted on 17 Jan 2024
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Money the bank changes people for not having any money.
Second sentence in the article: "Under the proposal, banks could continue to charge fees when a customer’s account falls below zero..." -- that's what it is. Back in the day, if you wrote a check for more than you have in your account, the bank would not only bounce the check (refuse to pay so the check holder wouldn't get your money at all), they'd charge a fee on top of that so your balance would go even lower (sometimes below zero).
Here they just let your balance go below zero (or below the maximum negative balance if you have that enabled on your account), and you get a notification to please make sure your balance is above the limit within X days or they will block any pending payments. The only charge is whatever the interest rate is you pay for a negative balance, so depending on the amount it could be a few cents or so.
Cheques haven’t been a thing in Europe for over 20 years or so, but back when we had them they were guaranteed up to a certain amount. Basically, they would never bounce as long as the amount was under the limit. This also meant that no one would accept a cheque over that limit, in which case you just wrote multiple cheques (the bank would only give you a limited number of them at a time, IIRC it was 10 for a standard account).
A lot of us in the US still pay rent in checks. I get them from my bank in books of a hundred, and there's no upper limit on how big they can be.
Anything that risks bouncing requires getting a fancy check (certified) where they take the money out before issuing the check.
If I try to spend more than I have it just doesn't work. Nobody charges me for it. But then I can just transfer funds from my account to another, no need for apps and shit, and it costs zero money to do it. You can probably guess I'm not from Murica (where Jesus lives)
If it’s exploitation make them give all of it back that they already took.
You're vastly overestimating the powers of the executive branch.
BoTH sIdeS ArE tHE saMe!!!11
Should be expanded to identify any and all predatory fees and burn them at the stake. Feels like the FTC or Bureau of Consumer Protection should take this up as their top priority.
You can't just tell banks not to abuse their customers! That's crazy talk!
Well the USA is known to only tackle problems as they arise instead of before they could do damage.
Creates a freedom for companies to exploit and consumers often cant or wont sue them.
True, but before we go making a wishlist, let's remember that it's not even a possibility if Trump wins in November.
If anyone likes these systemic changes, mundane as they may be, remember that at the voting booth.
My Canadian bank just charged me $45 CAD twice and only noticed me a day after the second charge. I didn't notice because I no longer use it. I wish the limit was $3...
Something like 10 years ago, a Spanish bank charged me 25€ after I didn't notice a 0.10€ overdraft... but it just happened that I had stopped using that bank, my cards expired, lost online access, so when I finally went to ask about closing the account in person like 5 years later, it had ballooned to over 400€ in the red. The cashier went all aggro on me, even got from behind the counter to shove the statement directly into my face, looked like was going to punch me or something.
I just left and didn't feel like returning, had no reason to deal with them, so kind of YOLOed it. Then some regulations changed, the bank got "rebranded" (went under and got bought under a similar name)... until last year when I decided to check on things just in case... and it turned out that I'm not a client anymore. Suits me 🤷